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Title: Red and black cobra trooper are they bootlegs does anyone know for sure
Post by: master_stanley on May 06, 2009, 12:51:32 PM: Hey does anyone know if the Red and black cobra troopers that where being sold at the show that many or us picked up that where molded in the 1982-83 cobra mold are they bootlegs? Plus Does anyone know for sure what they are, I was told buy the guy selling them that they where unreleased figures. On yojoe.com they insited they are bootlegs.
Title: Re: Red and black cobra trooper are they bootlegs does anyone know for sure
Post by: nova on May 06, 2009, 01:27:46 PM: They're bootlegs
Title: Re: Red and black cobra trooper are they bootlegs does anyone know for sure
Post by: NeoDragonKnight on May 06, 2009, 01:32:13 PM: Probablly bootlegs, do you have pics of them? Just curious how they look
Title: Re: Red and black cobra trooper are they bootlegs does anyone know for sure
Post by: Pete The Greek on May 06, 2009, 01:33:46 PM: Like Nova stated, they are 100% bootlegs.
Title: Re: Red and black cobra trooper are they bootlegs does anyone know for sure
Post by: master_stanley on May 06, 2009, 01:39:40 PM: Good to know they are cool either way, plus I would have bought them either way wish I could get more for cheap.
Title: Re: Red and black cobra trooper are they bootlegs does anyone know for sure
Post by: master_stanley on May 06, 2009, 01:48:34 PM: Also does anyone know when they where made?
Title: Re: Red and black cobra trooper are they bootlegs does anyone know for sure
Post by: Stealth Viper on May 06, 2009, 02:44:25 PM: I can confirm 100% that they are bootlegs. Hasbro also confirmed this on Saturday
Title: Re: Red and black cobra trooper are they bootlegs does anyone know for sure
Post by: narceron on May 06, 2009, 02:54:32 PM: I saw Viper's set, they looked pretty decent, but obviously nothing official about them, :(

maybe lunchtime troopers?
Title: Re: Red and black cobra trooper are they bootlegs does anyone know for sure
Post by: roshan on May 06, 2009, 04:42:35 PM: Quote from: "Stealth Viper"
I can confirm 100% that they are bootlegs. Hasbro also confirmed this on Saturday

No offense, but hasbro always calls these type of things bootlegs. If you call them bootlegs I give more credence to you on the issue than hasbro. I guess a question to better clarify it is: were these made in a Hasbro factory or outside of a hasbro factory.
Title: Re: Red and black cobra trooper are they bootlegs does anyone know for sure
Post by: BHMike on May 06, 2009, 06:01:07 PM: 100% without a shadow of a doubt these are unofficial figures made without Hasbro's permission or knowledge. They are bootlegs in every sense of the word.
Title: Re: Red and black cobra trooper are they bootlegs does anyone know for sure
Post by: martin-montreal on May 06, 2009, 08:20:07 PM: I bought 2 of them without being 100% sure they were bootleg (ok, 99% sure). But they look very cool. When I came back home, I made 2 serious tests:

1. Back hole
2. Feet hole

In previous 1983 Bootleg Blue Cobra soldiers I got (without knowing they were bootlegs >:( ) their holes (back and feet) were smaller. So, they can't hold on stand's peg and they can't have a backpack in their back.

The 3rd test was about their rivest arms. The bootleg Cobra soldiers I have, have their elbow rivest backward.

So these we saw at the con (Red, black and tan... yes they also got a tan version...) had none of those problems. So they are bootlegs, but very well done bootlegs.

Martin
Title: Re: Red and black cobra trooper are they bootlegs does anyone know for sure
Post by: roshan on May 06, 2009, 08:58:40 PM: Gah! I didn't see the tan ones. Does anyone have any extras?
Title: Re: Red and black cobra trooper are they bootlegs does anyone know for sure
Post by: master_stanley on May 06, 2009, 09:07:49 PM: I wish I had some tan ones, Thanks for the info guys bootlegs or not they are cool I wish I had more of them. I also wish he did them in white for those artic battles.
Title: Re: Red and black cobra trooper are they bootlegs does anyone know for sure
Post by: dodge822 on May 06, 2009, 09:22:24 PM: Does anyone have 1 extra of each colour that they can sell/trade. I didnt get any and must have missed them, as i dont remember seeing them. I just would like one of each.
Title: Re: Red and black cobra trooper are they bootlegs does anyone know for sure
Post by: condor knight on May 06, 2009, 09:46:22 PM: I could sell you one red. The black I have 6 in a squad.
Title: Re: Red and black cobra trooper are they bootlegs does anyone know for sure
Post by: K.B. on May 07, 2009, 04:53:15 AM: I too would like to see a pic or a link to a photo of these figures
Title: Re: Red and black cobra trooper are they bootlegs does anyone know for sure
Post by: master_stanley on May 07, 2009, 06:34:21 PM: I opened mine the quality is very good I wish I had an army of them.
Title: Re: Red and black cobra trooper are they bootlegs does anyone know for sure
Post by: roshan on May 07, 2009, 07:39:15 PM: Opened? I got mine from the vendor loose. Were some of these carded?
Title: Re: Red and black cobra trooper are they bootlegs does anyone know for sure
Post by: Pete The Greek on May 07, 2009, 07:45:48 PM: Quote from: "roshan"
Opened? I got mine from the vendor loose. Were some of these carded?

They were all plastic baggies.
Title: Re: Red and black cobra trooper are they bootlegs does anyone know for sure
Post by: haggis on May 07, 2009, 11:22:44 PM: They should call these Hotcake troopers because that's how they were selling on Saturday. I was stationed next to the gentlemen who were selling these(and some other very cool Hong Kong goodies) and I'm pretty sure the only thing that sold in greater numbers may have been the exclusive Canadian JoeCon set.
This was a conversation I overheard about five different times between the sellers and different buyers:
"Do you have more of these?"
"How many do you want?"
"How many do you have?"
"How many do you want?"
and so on...

I had to ask a friend, who is far more Joe-savvy than I, what was so special about these particular loose troopers and he explained that they were really good bootlegs. I ended up buying one just out of sheer curiosity. The black ones were much more popular than the reds. They must have run out of tan troopers early if they were selling that colour also.
Title: Re: Red and black cobra trooper are they bootlegs does anyone know for sure
Post by: pdaat on May 08, 2009, 12:17:59 AM: I saw them. How much were they selling for?
Title: Re: Red and black cobra trooper are they bootlegs does anyone know for sure
Post by: haggis on May 08, 2009, 12:20:20 AM: $20 each.
At the end of the day you could get one red and one black for $30.

Looks like they're available on ebay. May be the same seller:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-unreleased-red ... 35a1649731 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-unreleased-red-cobra-trooper-1983-mib_W0QQitemZ230340990769QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item35a1649731)
Title: Re: Red and black cobra trooper are they bootlegs does anyone know for sure
Post by: master_stanley on May 08, 2009, 03:37:25 PM: They came in a little baggie either taped or stabled I bought two and traded for a bunch if anyone has a spare tan one let me know I didn't get that one. I wish they where cheaper so I could have army built them I think they look cool. I'm glade he brought them.
Title: Re: Red and black cobra trooper are they bootlegs does anyone know for sure
Post by: K.B. on May 08, 2009, 11:16:26 PM: Aw man those look pretty awesome
Title: Re: Red and black cobra trooper are they bootlegs does anyone know for sure
Post by: narceron on May 08, 2009, 11:30:00 PM: wow, bought for 20, sold for 131, these are quite the investment, :)
Title: Re: Red and black cobra trooper are they bootlegs does anyone know for sure
Post by: condor knight on May 17, 2009, 11:03:20 PM: I listed one red up on ebay and only got 30.00 for it.
Title: Re: Red and black cobra trooper are they bootlegs does anyone know for sure
Post by: martin-montreal on May 18, 2009, 11:49:31 AM: Quote from: "condor knight"
I listed one red up on ebay and only got 30.00 for it.

You should have told us (http://http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/sauer/angry-smiley-055.gif) But since I paid $15 for mine...

Martin