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Title: Hasbro Answers Our November Questions
Post by: Stealth Viper on November 17, 2009, 05:07:06 PM
Joecanuck asked:
Since store exclusives don't always come out in Canada, and especially
not in Quebec, is there any way we fans can be informed of what exclusives
will be carried by Canadian retailers?

Hasbro Answered:
Hasbro Canada is working on a way to more effectively communicate all
exclusives that will be coming to market and which retailers will be
carrying them. Thank you for the insight!



Joecanuck Asked:
The Official GI Joe convention run by Fun Publications and the Master
 Collector Group is scheduled for the last weekend in April, traditionally
 the time the Canadian G.I. Joe convention is held every year. Since Master
 Collector indicated that Hasbro made this decision, why did you request  that
 the Official Convention be held this weekend?

Hasbro Answered:
We had to look at many factors - we needed a great location for the
official convention and we wanted to make sure all key contacts from
Hasbro and external parties were available for the show.  This was
determined to be the best time to host it in Hasbro's hometown.



Joecanuck Asked:
 Is there any chance of some more classic figures being slipped into the movie/post-movie line-up?

Hasbro Answered:
Yes!  Look out for a S.A.W. Viper Crazy Legs, and plenty of others in 2010.
Title: Re: Hasbro Answers Our November Questions
Post by: Jon S. on November 17, 2009, 05:12:51 PM
Did someone say Crazylegs?
Title: Re: Hasbro Answers Our November Questions
Post by: SnakeEyesOnAPlane on November 17, 2009, 05:28:36 PM
Quote from: "Jon S."
Did someone say Crazylegs?

I'm excited!  Let's hope they don't give him black armour and/or skin... ::)
Title: Re: Hasbro Answers Our November Questions
Post by: Wild Weasel on November 17, 2009, 05:45:49 PM
Wow, Hasbro threw a "bone" for once with #3. Nice answers guys.
Title: Re: Hasbro Answers Our November Questions
Post by: Oreobuilder on November 17, 2009, 06:22:51 PM
Ok, I'm cautiously optimistic about Crazy Legs and Saw Viper. I just hope they are classic styling and that Hasbro won't pull another Footloose on us.  ::)

OB
Title: Re: Hasbro Answers Our November Questions
Post by: morgardee on November 17, 2009, 06:28:37 PM
Hmmm. Saw Viper eh? Will he come him "No Russian" action?  Anyone who's played CoD Modern Warfare 2 and read the comic should get the reference.  :wink:
Title: Re: Hasbro Answers Our November Questions
Post by: Jay on November 17, 2009, 07:45:43 PM
Quote from: "Oreobuilder"
Ok, I'm cautiously optimistic about Crazy Legs and Saw Viper. I just hope they are classic styling and that Hasbro won't pull another Footloose on us.  ::)

OB
By "pull another Footloose", do you mean "adapted for modern times" or "just a mishmash of repainted parts that lacks appeal"?
Because I'm all for the former (modern parachutist, SAW-Viper with a machine gun worthy of ROC's higher technology) but against the latter.
Title: Re: Hasbro Answers Our November Questions
Post by: BHMike on November 17, 2009, 07:48:33 PM
Quote from: "Jon S."
Did someone say Crazylegs?

Is it sad that I thought of you when I read that Jon?
Title: Re: Hasbro Answers Our November Questions
Post by: darth cujo on November 17, 2009, 08:38:47 PM
Quote from: "Jay"
Quote from: "Oreobuilder"
Ok, I'm cautiously optimistic about Crazy Legs and Saw Viper. I just hope they are classic styling and that Hasbro won't pull another Footloose on us.  ::)

OB
By "pull another Footloose", do you mean "adapted for modern times" or "just a mishmash of repainted parts that lacks appeal"?
Because I'm all for the former (modern parachutist, SAW-Viper with a machine gun worthy of ROC's higher technology) but against the latter.



By pull a footloose I'm pretty sure he means not giving us a real classic figure and giving us some ROC figure with a classic name. Hopefully Hasbro doesn't pull a footloose and we'll get a real Crazylegs, SAW Viper and more! :) I'm not a real big fan of either SAW Viper or Crazy Legs, but at least there's hope for more classic figures.
Title: Re: Hasbro Answers Our November Questions
Post by: Jay on November 17, 2009, 09:59:38 PM
Quote from: "darth cujo"
By pull a footloose I'm pretty sure he means not giving us a real classic figure and giving us some ROC figure with a classic name. Hopefully Hasbro doesn't pull a footloose and we'll get a real Crazylegs, SAW Viper and more! :) I'm not a real big fan of either SAW Viper or Crazy Legs, but at least there's hope for more classic figures.
Any Crazylegs or SAW-Viper put out by Hasbro will be a real Crazylegs or SAW-Viper, unless they share a codename because the intended codename could not be secured.

If Hasbro gives a Neo-Viper repaint a chaingun and calls it a SAW-Viper, it'll be a SAW-Viper.

I mean, for tapdancing's sake, guys... none of you went on any bitchfests when pre-ROC different takes on characters were done. When Barrel Roll got his DTC figure no one bitched his blue shirt and glider were absent. When Major Bludd was made in Battle Corps no one bitched that he didn't look like the 1983 version. Went Destro went all pimp turtleneck in 2003 no one complained that he wasn't wearing his flared red collar.
But if Footloose ditches his woodland camo and outdated fatigues for some digital desert camo and modern tactical vest, LOOK OUT HASBRO THE FANS ARE PISSED!!!!!
Title: Re: Hasbro Answers Our November Questions
Post by: SnakeEyesOnAPlane on November 17, 2009, 10:12:24 PM
Quote from: "Jay"
Quote from: "darth cujo"
By pull a footloose I'm pretty sure he means not giving us a real classic figure and giving us some ROC figure with a classic name. Hopefully Hasbro doesn't pull a footloose and we'll get a real Crazylegs, SAW Viper and more! :) I'm not a real big fan of either SAW Viper or Crazy Legs, but at least there's hope for more classic figures.
Any Crazylegs or SAW-Viper put out by Hasbro will be a real Crazylegs or SAW-Viper, unless they share a codename because the intended codename could not be secured.

If Hasbro gives a Neo-Viper repaint a chaingun and calls it a SAW-Viper, it'll be a SAW-Viper.

I mean, for tapdancing's sake, guys... none of you went on any bitchfests when pre-ROC different takes on characters were done. When Barrel Roll got his DTC figure no one bitched his blue shirt and glider were absent. When Major Bludd was made in Battle Corps no one bitched that he didn't look like the 1983 version. Went Destro went all pimp turtleneck in 2003 no one complained that he wasn't wearing his flared red collar.
But if Footloose ditches his woodland camo and outdated fatigues for some digital desert camo and modern tactical vest, LOOK OUT HASBRO THE FANS ARE PISSED!!!!!

Complaining about Battle Corps?  SPOILER: Someone probably did.

Just because they call something something doesn't make it that thing.  Case in point: modern 'reimaginings' that miss the mark that don't have the spirit of the source material.

If they took Cobra Trooper legs, Snow Job's body, Croc Master's arms, and Flint's head, coloured it black with neon fuchsia highlights, gave it a jetpack and called it "Crazylegs," what would it be?  A crappy figure named after the character of Crazylegs and has no connection to the character/original figure outside of the name.
Title: Re: Hasbro Answers Our November Questions
Post by: Jay on November 17, 2009, 10:47:29 PM
Quote from: "SnakeEyesOnAPlane"
If they took Cobra Trooper legs, Snow Job's body, Croc Master's arms, and Flint's head, coloured it black with neon fuchsia highlights, gave it a jetpack and called it "Crazylegs," what would it be?  A crappy figure named after the character of Crazylegs and has no connection to the character/original figure outside of the name.
Well the colors would be moderately close to Crazylegs' Night Force colors, and neon fuschia is close enough to the v1's bright red. A jetpack can works every bit as well as a parachute for aerial insertions.
So yeah, he'd work okay as Crazylegs.

And I really don't see how Hasbro "missed the mark" with Footloose. The original was an infantry trooper according to 1985. The new one is an infantry trooper according to 2009. Seems like he's perfectly in tune with the spirit of the original.
Title: Re: Hasbro Answers Our November Questions
Post by: SnakeEyesOnAPlane on November 17, 2009, 10:50:34 PM
Quote from: "Jay"
Quote from: "SnakeEyesOnAPlane"
If they took Cobra Trooper legs, Snow Job's body, Croc Master's arms, and Flint's head, coloured it black with neon fuchsia highlights, gave it a jetpack and called it "Crazylegs," what would it be?  A crappy figure named after the character of Crazylegs and has no connection to the character/original figure outside of the name.
Well the colors would be moderately close to Crazylegs' Night Force colors, and neon fuschia is close enough to the v1's bright red. A jetpack can works every bit as well as a parachute for aerial insertions.
So yeah, he'd work okay as Crazylegs.

And I really don't see how Hasbro "missed the mark" with Footloose. The original was an infantry trooper according to 1985. The new one is an infantry trooper according to 2009. Seems like he's perfectly in tune with the spirit of the original.
By that rationale, maybe they should stop making Joes at all since Corps figures are close enough. ::)
Title: Re: Hasbro Answers Our November Questions
Post by: Jay on November 17, 2009, 10:58:23 PM
Quote from: "SnakeEyesOnAPlane"
By that rationale, maybe they should stop making Joes at all since Corps figures are close enough. ::)
No, my point was that Hasbro can do what they want with their license, and if they want to update toys instead of just reusing designs that are over 20 years outdated, they can. And a Reactive armored Crazylegs with a jetpack will be every bit as valid a Crazylegs as the original 1986 toy.
Title: Re: Hasbro Answers Our November Questions
Post by: pdaat on November 17, 2009, 11:04:37 PM
Isn't Crazy Legs dead?  Wouldn't that imply it would be a different character  ::)

At like this batch of answers - because they are actually answers!
Title: Re: Hasbro Answers Our November Questions
Post by: SnakeEyesOnAPlane on November 17, 2009, 11:09:02 PM
Quote from: "Jay"
Quote from: "SnakeEyesOnAPlane"
By that rationale, maybe they should stop making Joes at all since Corps figures are close enough. ::)
No, my point was that Hasbro can do what they want with their license, and if they want to update toys instead of just reusing designs that are over 20 years outdated, they can. And a Reactive armored Crazylegs with a jetpack will be every bit as valid a Crazylegs as the original 1986 toy.
True, but there is a difference between updating and straight-up making a new character altogether and giving it a classic name, you know what I mean?  I'm hoping that give Crazylegs the PoC Beachhead treatment.  Man, oh man, that guy looks great. ;D
Title: Re: Hasbro Answers Our November Questions
Post by: Jay on November 17, 2009, 11:44:15 PM
Quote from: "SnakeEyesOnAPlane"
True, but there is a difference between updating and straight-up making a new character altogether and giving it a classic name, you know what I mean?  I'm hoping that give Crazylegs the PoC Beachhead treatment.  Man, oh man, that guy looks great. ;D
Yes, but the comparison given was ROC Footloose, who while not as he looked in 1985, is a valid update in the spirit of the original.
Title: Re: Hasbro Answers Our November Questions
Post by: Scramble on November 18, 2009, 12:45:35 AM
Okay guys, I think we can move on.
Title: Re: Hasbro Answers Our November Questions
Post by: darth cujo on November 18, 2009, 08:02:27 AM
I don't mind ROC updates to figures. I say go for it. I tthink people got annoyed with footloose because it seemed hasbro was indicating that footloose would be a release in the classic style looking like the original footloose. So fans interested in that classic line felt like the rug was pulled out from under them. Jay, you may like the new footloose, and that's cool, but I think you can understand where us classic fans are coming from. So when we see an answer to the question indicating Crazylegs and SAW Viper, the implication is a classic version. Not a reimagining or a new uniform for said character.

In the end I think there's room for both. But given the classic stuff has been pushed aside (understandably so) for the movie stuff, I asked the question because it would be nice to see some classic stuff mixed in for those of us who like it. :)
Title: Re: Hasbro Answers Our November Questions
Post by: Jay on November 18, 2009, 08:58:22 AM
Quote from: "darth cujo"
I tthink people got annoyed with footloose because it seemed hasbro was indicating that footloose would be a release in the classic style looking like the original footloose.
Really? Where was this said?

I pretty much knew this was going to be a whole set of reimaginings based only on femmeTone's presence.
Title: Re: Hasbro Answers Our November Questions
Post by: darth cujo on November 18, 2009, 10:29:36 AM
Quote from: "Jay"
Quote from: "darth cujo"
I tthink people got annoyed with footloose because it seemed hasbro was indicating that footloose would be a release in the classic style looking like the original footloose.
Really? Where was this said?

I pretty much knew this was going to be a whole set of reimaginings based only on femmeTone's presence.

I don't know specifically, but I thought there was a Q&A asking if there would be more classic joes coming sometime when ROC was kicking into gear, and Hasbro indicated Footloose. I don't have the time to go scouring the past Q&A's to verify, but suffice to say at least a portion of the collecting community had the impression of a classic style Footloose coming and there was a misunderstanding along the way. Who was wrong or right is irrelevent. The point is classic fans had their hopes up and were disappointed.

As I said it would be nice if there was a little bit of everything for everyone.
Title: Re: Hasbro Answers Our November Questions
Post by: Bandalero on November 18, 2009, 01:51:58 PM
oh yeah, I had the impression that there was a classic-style Footloose on the horizon - 1 step closer to completing my modern-era 1985 display - then we got THAT...

Hasbro can call him whatever they want, it's their licensce, but personally THAT ain't Footloose - not even remotely. 

Not saying that Footloose is a fav of mine, but I'm curious Jay - who's your favourite character/fig from back in the day?
Title: Re: Hasbro Answers Our November Questions
Post by: Jay on November 18, 2009, 06:48:32 PM
Quote from: "Bandalero"
Hasbro can call him whatever they want, it's their licensce, but personally THAT ain't Footloose - not even remotely. 
Really? He's got the mustache, the short sleeves, the helmet and the standard infantryman look. While he's not looking like he did in 1985, he's definitely got Footloose's trademark characteristics.
Would you prefer they tried to emulate the Battle Rangers Footloose look?
http://www.brokenarrowtoys.com/cast%20f ... se/FL1.jpg (http://www.brokenarrowtoys.com/cast%20figures/Battle%20Rangers%20Footloose/FL1.jpg)

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Not saying that Footloose is a fav of mine, but I'm curious Jay - who's your favourite character/fig from back in the day?
I've got soft spots for Mainframe (whose 25th Anniversary figure majestically SUCKED, gimme a ROC/Resolute-style modern style version ASAP Hasbro!) and Sci-Fi, but my favorite ones from my youth are definitely Tomax, Xamot and the Crimson Guard, my first Cobras.
Title: Re: Hasbro Answers Our November Questions
Post by: Scramble on November 18, 2009, 10:28:28 PM
If you want to discuss Footloose, start a new thread about it. This thread has been derailed long enough.
Title: Re: Hasbro Answers Our November Questions
Post by: pdaat on November 21, 2009, 10:55:18 PM
OK.  SO it sounds like POC sadly has been pushed back to the later half of 2010.  The Resolute stuff is supposed to come out in the fall of 2010.  What will be coming in the spring and summer of 2010?  Wave 3 vehicles and a wave or 2 of figures?

I believe in some of the other Q&As Hasbro said we will be seeing the future direction of the line next year.  Any speculation or ideas?  I'd like to see a few less continuities to be honest.  I know Transformers has had a bunch of different continuities, but that little Star Wars single continuity thing seems to working out.
Title: Re: Hasbro Answers Our November Questions
Post by: Jay on November 21, 2009, 11:04:11 PM
Quote from: "pdaat"
OK.  SO it sounds like POC sadly has been pushed back to the later half of 2010.  The Resolute stuff is supposed to come out in the fall of 2010.  What will be coming in the spring and summer of 2010?  Wave 3 vehicles and a wave or 2 of figures?
POC has already started being released. The Sting Raider has been found in TRUs and City Strike Snake-Eyes is part of the inaugural wave of POC figures.