JoeCanuck
General Section => Off Topic => Topic started by: Stealth Viper on May 12, 2010, 08:28:46 AM
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If we can get 10% of Ontario's population to sign the petition, we'll be able to call for a referendum on the issue and try to stop it. We the people have the power, so let's use it!
Sign Up Here:
http://www.hstpetition.com/petition/sign.php (http://www.hstpetition.com/petition/sign.php)
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I signed the petition.
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Signed, copied and sent via email to family and co-workers. Facebook is next...
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13,150,000 people in Ontario (according to a 2009 review)
That means only 1,315,000 need to sign.
Problem is, I signed it - but never got the confirmation email.
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I got mine and we are at 11000+ signatures so far.
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Signed.
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13,150,000 people in Ontario (according to a 2009 review)
That means only 1,315,000 need to sign.
Problem is, I signed it - but never got the confirmation email.
Confirmation email comes about 10 min later. I had the same issue
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Still nothing.
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Got mine right away. Try a different account?
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HST?
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Hey guys,
Ontario doesn't have any sort of referendum legislation with 10% of the population signing a petition. That's strictly a BC thing.
Apparently the HST dodges the referendum sections of the Tax Payer Protection act in Ontario.
We seem to be stuck with it.
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I signed
but if a lot of people complain about it they should do something
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It was signed into Law several months ago, about the only thing that could be done about it is an election were a new government was put into power with a majority, and they decided to change the law.
The likelihood of any new government changing the tax laws at this point would be political suicide.
The PST division is already well under way of being totally dismantled - all of the employees have been issued their severance cheques (even though they have been moved to the HST devision). New contracts would have to be drawn up, and severance payments would again have to be paid out to move those same employees from the HST back to a newly established PST. Also no government is going to give up tax money so easily.
Think back to Mike Harris, when he won the election by basically promising to get rid of the perceived tax grab that was Photo Radar.
We no longer have photo radar, but in order to pay for things and balance a budget we also non longer own the 407, among other things.
I vote every election, but I am a firm believer that we are damned if we do and damned if we don't. Politicians don't run the government, bureaucrats do... and they are not elected and don't change because of an election.
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Well I hope this will teach all those who voted that idiot in for a second term. Even Trudeau would be rolling over in his grave if he witnessed this bastardization of government.
I thought the municipal pesticide ban was bad enough. For those who argue in favour of that ban: case and point a five year old girl not two weeks ago in a local park was running, tripped, fell and landed face first into a thistle weed. Her face was covered in thistles, one close to her right eye. My neighbor witnessed the whole incident. Alternative pluck every weed out of the parks and playgrounds manually causing divots and countless man hours charged to the tax payer.
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HST?
Provincial Sales Tax (PST) + Federal Goods and Services Tax (GST) = Harmonized Sales Tax (HST)
I hope this helps you Sundance
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I don't think the words "Harmonized" and "Tax" should ever be included in the same sentence, much less the same phrase! You guys have my sympathy. I take it this was yet another BS law that was passed sneakily, and that no one heard about until it was too late?
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The HST was never an election issue. Dalton and his band of assclowns brought the HST out of now where.
I can't wait for the day where a real democratic process is introduced, one where we the people vote online to make these decisions instead of these assclowns who go into business for themselves.
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thanks bandonov
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Well on the BC front, the noHST campaign might work. While only needing 10% the organizers are trying to get 15% signed on.
Five weeks in with 8 to go, out of 85 ridings, 56 have 10% of which 34 have hit the 15% mark.
BC might win this fight, I hope Ontario can find a loophole or have a politician with the balls to stand for the people and fight the continued type of taxation that hurts those more affect than the people who's pockets it will fill.