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Re: Hasbro Profit Drops 71%
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2011, 11:57:41 AM »

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More and more people wait for the almost monthly 2 for 1 sales at TRU or Zellers to buy toys.
Some even wait for those sales and return their toys  that they bought at full price to get a refund.
At some point, it's no wonder stores don't order as much... Just saying...

+1  :timbits:


Man, I'm falling behind in timbits. LJ's got twice as many as me. I gotta start blackmailing people or something... :-

Don't feel bad. I'm more concerned by LatinJoe who has more Timbits then the site owner himself... this is dangerous for him :shifty:

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Re: Hasbro Profit Drops 71%
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2011, 04:11:41 PM »

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More and more people wait for the almost monthly 2 for 1 sales at TRU or Zellers to buy toys.
Some even wait for those sales and return their toys  that they bought at full price to get a refund.
At some point, it's no wonder stores don't order as much... Just saying...

+1  :timbits: awarded just for saying it  ;D


Man, I'm falling behind in timbits. LJ's got twice as many as me. I gotta start blackmailing people or something... :-


Nothing to be sad about I've been stuck at 13 timbits for months now. :'(

BTW: Time for Hasbro to rethink their market strategy.  They are on the right track with the upcoming Skystriker.
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Re: Hasbro Profit Drops 71%
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2011, 04:31:08 PM »

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Nothing to be sad about I've been stuck at 13 timbits for months now. :'(

More  :timbits: being thrown around...
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Re: Hasbro Profit Drops 71%
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2011, 05:07:24 PM »

My hope for the Joe brand has improved significantly with Darryl Depriest coming back to the line in time for the second movie toys and the director at least saying the right things.

It could, fingers-crossed, mean more and better product for Joe next year that catch on with kids.
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Re: Hasbro Profit Drops 71%
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2011, 03:20:01 PM »

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Nothing to be sad about I've been stuck at 13 timbits for months now. :'(

More  :timbits:


Anyway, I think part of Hasbro's problem was the movie line.  they really positioned themselves out of the market with that crazy high price point.  Hopefully the new movie figures will be a bit cheaper than the last.  Because overall I enjoyed the figures they offered.
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Re: Hasbro Profit Drops 71%
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2011, 03:32:15 PM »

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Anyway, I think part of Hasbro's problem was the movie line.  they really positioned themselves out of the market with that crazy high price point.  Hopefully the new movie figures will be a bit cheaper than the last.  Because overall I enjoyed the figures they offered.

Nope they have not dropped the price... THOR figs are $10 and I would not be suprised if they make Captain America even more as it will be the biggest movie of the summer! 
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Re: Hasbro Profit Drops 71%
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2011, 04:19:33 PM »

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Nothing to be sad about I've been stuck at 13 timbits for months now. :'(

More  :timbits: being thrown around...

You guys are too kind!  Although it was kind of neat to have a bakers dozen----now that being said I hope they aren't taken away from me. :-[


Anyway, I think part of Hasbro's problem was the movie line.  they really positioned themselves out of the market with that crazy high price point.  Hopefully the new movie figures will be a bit cheaper than the last.  Because overall I enjoyed the figures they offered.

I partially agree. I think the problem is that action figure prices seem to have gone high. There must be a reason, I don't know what it is. Supply and demand? Don't know. If it is that, then we can expect prices to go down. If it doesn't happen, likely that it's productions costs, marketing, licensing etc, things that the consumer has no power over. Marvel Universe figures do sell at that price point. I'd say that it's because they're backed up by a strong media presence but also fantastic new sculpts, vibrant superhero themed colors that are very pleasant to look at, especially to kids and their parents.

Look at Avatar, can't believe those figures were marked above 10$ from the beginning. Terminator and Star Trek were obviously a design failure from the get go IMO even though their respective movies did great at box office. There's also a standard quality to be met by toy makers, which Hasbro and Mattel have been setting higher each time (exception to this are 3 inch DC superheroes). And some companies seem to be very stubborn to think they can get away with just marketing cheap looking design just as long as the movie it's based on is a blockbuster. Hasbro has been putting a lot of good quality product lately. They had an opportunity to make something more out of the ROC line. Unfortunately most of their product seemed to me like it was lacking originality such as lots of repaints and poor retooling, poor color palettes (the movie is responsible for some of it). I actually bought the first figures from ROC such as the Neovipers, Baroness, Snake Eyes, Cobra Commander simply because these were new unique looking figures. I threw my towel on the floor after wave 2 or 3 I think when they started to go wild on their repacks, and repaints, unfortunately Hasbro was unable to break from their ARAH prison for obviously many reasons. I'm not saying they did a bad thing, but it could have been done much in a much better way. Most of the items that saw release looked rather more like they were thrown at us, rather then say: "here we hope you can be proud and enjoy this incredible array of offerings we worked on". Not my feelings exactly. Some of them were indeed nice such as the Bench press soldier (I think that's what he's called, feel free to correct me  ;D) but again my feelings is that these and a few others were just a few nice exceptions...

As some of you guys already know I've been collecting Star Wars for a long long time ago and recently stopped, so I have been able to enjoy both worlds for quite some time and make some personal observations about both brands. I have to admit that Hasbro was blamed a lot in the SW community for reissuing different versions of the same character since they relaunched the line in 1995. But these past years, they've been doing a fantastic job with the brand, offering a lot of brand new sculpts especially with the new Clone wars series, which forced them not to retool a lot of their past achievements as much. Hasbro should do the same thing with Gi joe and offer per instance more Renegades product. Despite it's downs, my love for Gi joe has survived ahead of Star Wars, and I would like to see the Joe brand shine again, and by "shine" I also mean that I hope that package design doesn't steer away again from the ARAH inspired look. POC is an obvious attempt in the right direction this time but has not reached its climatic stage IMO. If this line survives beyond Gi joe 2 and doesn't get tossed aside like 25th did when it made way for ROC, then I'll agree with many of you that Hasbro has indeed reached a new level of perfection. Nuff said.
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Re: Hasbro Profit Drops 71%
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2011, 04:28:19 PM »

LJ on the Road to 100! :o  Well said, +1!

Let me know if you can get more then a 1000 timbits on this site, at the rate you are getting  :timbits:
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Re: Hasbro Profit Drops 71%
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2011, 04:33:31 PM »

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LJ on the Road to 100! :o  Well said, +1!

Let me know if you can get more then a 1000 timbits on this site, at the rate you are getting  :timbits:

I don't think so...Olyeller was only able to get -999 Timbits so I think that the 3 digits are as high as the Sky flies high!  :lol:
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Re: Hasbro Profit Drops 71%
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2011, 09:29:27 AM »

In general, Mattel has seemed to always mark up their figures.

The guys who put out Tron, Star Trek thought they could push their stuff out and get the same price point as the other leading brands (much like LJ has just said).  Mattel DC 3.75 figs were cheaper, but at least they acknowledged that the figures were not as well scuplted or as articulated (and I have hunted down almost the entire line).  In case anyone even cares, short of the GL movie figs, 3.75 DC figs from Mattel are dead as per my takls with Mattel reps at C2E2.

I stopped buying SW when they hit 9.99 and now buy for my kids in general BUT I wait for sales.   Joes are already two bucks less - I can't see then going any lower.  They are the best quality figs on the market, over MU ans SW.

They need to promote Joe hard or wait until CW slows down - that's the only way they will get the top spot they had in years past.  SW is just too well loved by the public in general - no matter how people complain of raped childhoods.
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Re: Hasbro Profit Drops 71%
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2011, 09:53:47 AM »

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I don't think so...Olyeller was only able to get -999 Timbits so I think that the 3 digits are as high as the Sky flies high!  :lol:

I just tested it. There's no limit.
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Re: Hasbro Profit Drops 71%
« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2011, 10:03:13 AM »

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I don't think so...Olyeller was only able to get -999 Timbits so I think that the 3 digits are as high as the Sky flies high!  :lol:

I just tested it. There's no limit.

If that is the case, LJ will be the first to have this for there Timbit count!

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