Post by: Agent_Loop on April 15, 2007, 07:45:59 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Canadian-Joe-Meet-E ... dZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/Canadian-Joe-Meet-Exclusive-Cobra-Espionage-Shiver_W0QQitemZ220102947437QQihZ012QQcategoryZ2467QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Post by: xhairs on April 15, 2007, 08:12:13 PM
Post by: latinjoe22 on April 15, 2007, 08:28:33 PM
Post by: Redskull on April 15, 2007, 08:57:48 PM
But since we are on the topic of shiver, I took a pic of him with my custom Joecanuck. The joecanuck has the same body except for the head which is a iceberg v2 with mirage goggles and sanded down mouth.
http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?imag ... kexxr6.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=joecanuckexxr6.jpg)
Now I just have to make Black Ice. :)
Post by: Stealth Viper on April 15, 2007, 09:00:59 PM
Quote from: "Redskull"
Is that the one Mike was going to put up?
Nope. That's not Mike's ebay ID.
Quote from: "Redskull"
I wonder who would sell theres?
Someone who came to the meet to get a figure explicitly FOR selling. In other words, a friendly neighbourhood scalper.
Post by: AmazonGrl on April 15, 2007, 09:11:25 PM
Post by: grunt 4 mvp on April 15, 2007, 09:30:26 PM
I guess the only negative part is that someone right behind them in line probably would have wanted to buy and keep it had they got the opportunity, but I guess that's life. He got there ealy so he has the right to do what he wants with his figure. Perhaps I give people too much credit, but I don't assume that he came to the meet for the sole purpose of 'scalping' the exclusive figure... It's so quick that he must've had it in mind when buying it though...
I'm keeping mine though - 23 has a good home! ;D
Post by: Pete The Greek on April 15, 2007, 09:54:08 PM
Post by: Realboss on April 15, 2007, 10:01:52 PM
Post by: gsmiley007 on April 15, 2007, 10:05:58 PM
Post by: condor knight on April 15, 2007, 10:13:54 PM
Post by: Pete The Greek on April 15, 2007, 10:14:23 PM
Simply pathetic.
Post by: night force cynic on April 15, 2007, 10:38:27 PM
Too bad there's no grounds to complain and try to get the auction yanked. There just HAS TO be someone who's just looking to capitalize on stuff, doesn' there!? Pisses me off.
Post by: Redskull on April 15, 2007, 11:00:27 PM
Quote from: "Realboss"
Probably the same jerk that took all of Viperlords free box of figures. There were younge children there that should of had first pick and got nothing.
There was a free box of figures? wow, didnt even know about that.
Post by: BHMike on April 16, 2007, 12:06:52 AM
I knew who had it as we have the list of people that got them.
That's all I'm willing to say right now. I may post more later, but I have a ton of PM's and emails to get back to first. ;-)
Mike
Post by: ViperDave on April 16, 2007, 12:31:33 AM
Post by: BHMike on April 16, 2007, 12:50:18 AM
I'm not 'outing' the guy, so please don't ask.
;-)
Post by: VEGA1 on April 16, 2007, 02:27:43 AM
Post by: BHMike on April 16, 2007, 09:39:36 AM
Quote from: "VEGA1"
You know I would have bought it from him if he was still selling it but I think the next time you do this again you should take a picture of each person with the figure and a sign letter stating that he has no right in selling, trading or copying this figure without your knowing about it or there will be legal problems with the maker of this product.
That would be 'too much'.
Next year however, each person will HAVE To show photo Id and register for the figure.
Even if you just walked in the door and buy one.
No one will get one unless we know who has which one.
They can do whatever they want with the figure - as can you guys.
But if we have the names of people that buy them to sell them - we can prevent selling to them (or anyone at that address) the following year.
Post by: VEGA1 on April 16, 2007, 03:19:55 PM
Post by: Cobra Freak on April 16, 2007, 05:59:26 PM
Cobra Freak ;D
Post by: grunt 4 mvp on April 16, 2007, 10:22:43 PM
Quote from: "THE Mike?"
Next year however, each person will HAVE To show photo Id and register for the figure.
Even if you just walked in the door and buy one.
No one will get one unless we know who has which one.
They can do whatever they want with the figure - as can you guys.
But if we have the names of people that buy them to sell them - we can prevent selling to them (or anyone at that address) the following year.
Good idea. Shame it had to come to that though.
I think I'd pay to hear the phone conversation that 'took care of' that auction though :wink:
Quote from: "Pete The Greek"
I highly doubt is was the same person auctioning the Shiver figure and the free table early raid. There were there just to get the Shiver figure....at 9 AM..
Simply pathetic.
No, no! There were three of us who were early and helped set-up and stuff (all arriving separately) and we would have received 22-24. The last few Shiver recipients would've been people who showed up right before the opening. I won't speculate who that would be, but Latinjoe22 and I were amongst the earlybirds (was it that early :) ) and we were all there in the true spirit of things!
Post by: latinjoe22 on April 16, 2007, 11:27:44 PM
Post by: BHMike on April 16, 2007, 11:32:48 PM
I'm waiting to hear back from him and his friend.
It's not a cool thing they did - there were a TON of kids there, and I'm sure they would of loved to get a free MOC joe figure.
People that pull that type of crap really piss me off.
If I don't hear from him tomorrow, I'll gladly 'out' him to you all.
Mike
Post by: Pete The Greek on April 17, 2007, 12:15:22 AM
Quote from: "grunt 4 mvp"
Quote from: "Pete The Greek"I highly doubt is was the same person auctioning the Shiver figure and the free table early raid. There were there just to get the Shiver figure....at 9 AM..
Simply pathetic.
No, no! There were three of us who were early and helped set-up and stuff (all arriving separately) and we would have received 22-24. The last few Shiver recipients would've been people who showed up right before the opening. I won't speculate who that would be, but Latinjoe22 and I were amongst the earlybirds (was it that early :) ) and we were all there in the true spirit of things!
I just heard 9 AM from some other guys there. So don't shoot me. And I don't know if their was a logical order in which figures 20 to 30 were sold. Consiering you were in the line, you would have a better idea who was 4 people over from you.
As for collectors getting a hand on stuff intended for kids first...I saw this first hand with the parachute drop at NO. Some collectors were going nuts getting the parachute figure (like the one freebie from the box set was enough ::)), which left most of the kids out in the cold. I tried to get one for a kid but failed. But some of the parents their were royally pissed based on the actions of these guys.
Next year, I should have some figures from the freebie table as I am gutting out my army builders from my collection that have no accessories.
Post by: viperlord on April 17, 2007, 01:32:12 AM
The last 2 figures left in the box WERE scooped up by a couple of kids which makes me feel somewhat better, but I wish that some consideration had been shown on the rest. Besides the fact that they're, y'know KIDS and should be given extra special care, if we don't get them interested in toys then the hobby we all love ends with us. Which is a pretty grim fate.
Needless to say, as much as I love the free table I'll be going a different way next year to get figures into the hands of the kids for whom they were intended. I'll find something else for the free table.
Post by: Redskull on April 17, 2007, 03:36:05 AM
Post by: morgardee on April 17, 2007, 08:41:14 AM
I also agree that dealers should not be picking thru the free table, or at least not have first crack at it. If people are there to sell then please don't be taking the free stuff from the people who are paying a door cover charge. That's not fair.
As for the Shiver auction, I'm glad Mike was able to put a lid on this auction but it's really going to be hard to prevent this in the future. I think we need to look at the positive side this and that is a lot of us got the figure and will cherish it for many many years and fondly remember this past years meet and that's what counts. This past year was the best one for me so far.
Post by: BHMike on April 17, 2007, 09:08:37 AM
The 'Seller' for this specific one is someone I know.
He was a customer of mine and he's actually a great guy - regardless what you all may think of him.
His son is into G.I. Joe - that's why he was there. He bought the figure becuase it was the last one available, and he knows about Black Ice and what it went for. He didn't know what his plans were for it when he bought it. I may of done the same thing - bought an exclusive just because it was the last one. Who here can say they wouldn't of done the same thing?
He listed it on ebay moreso to see what type of interest it would garner - he's STILL getting emails from people on it. He never wanted to piss anyone off, or cause such an uproar online.
BUT. It was his, and I told him flat out that it's his to do with what he wants.
I also told him I had no qualms about 'asking' him not to sell it.
He decided to give it back to me (I refunded his money). Personally, I think he gave it back because we're friends and it 'kinda' puts me in a bad position. We all know one figure is held back for ebay. This is done to promote the next years meet, and to gain some funds for door prizes and such. With someone else posting a Shiver online, the 'first' one may go for more than 'ours' will. The thing is, I wouldn't want someone to just buy the first one that shows up online 'because it's online'. When I list the #30 Shiver figure on ebay, the buyer is going to also get a few other items with it - that they would no doubt enjoy having just as much as Shiver himself.
So really, anyone that does buy a Shiver figure NOT from me on ebay or otherwise - will be missing out on something. ;-)
Scalpers can't be stopped - and the more popular the Joe Meet becomes, the more these guys are going to come out and try to get more than one.
I know of one guy that got two at the meet because he brought his friend. Why does he need two? Who knows. But he has them, and if one of them ends up on ebay - then so be it. It's his right to sell his own items - we don't have to like it, but it's true.
The thing I don't get is WHY people that make no attempt to attend want one of these figures anyway? It's supposed to be a momento of the days events and you attending.
Not another figure in your collection so you can be a 'completist'. A completist of what? A bootleg Joe Custom? Where does it end?
Hoepfully this ends the bashing and such. The guy never intended to piss people off, and the mere fact that he drove to my front door to give it back more than supports that.
Mike
Post by: viperlord on April 17, 2007, 10:49:08 AM
Even my flight didn't cost much more than that. Last year I got the Joe Meet figure plus a 3 day vacation for about $50 more than Black Ice alone sold for. This year I had to buy a passport so about $150 more. But I got a lifetime of memories that will make me smile whenever I think about them. I think I got the better deal there :wink:
Post by: dryhawk37 on April 17, 2007, 02:09:02 PM
I looked into coming this year but work wouldnt allow it and the plane ticket alone was close to 800.00....
I was thinking of bidding on the Shiver (and emailed the seller) but will wait for # 30 to hit ebay so that the money spent goes towards next years show. Im not just a crazy completist but these figures are very cool and seem like great characters that Cobra has for their arctic unit (which is why I wanted them in the first place). I dont want people thinking the wrong thing here. I know they are customs and have no intention on getting them to re-sell. They will be part of my collection for years and years, just dont have the time and money to fly to Canada to pick them up is all :wink:
Post by: Pete The Greek on April 18, 2007, 12:41:40 AM
Once the Shiver Mike has goes on ebay, I will email you about it (just like Black Ice last year).
Post by: Redskull on April 25, 2007, 06:09:06 PM
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/1351 ... cksxv9.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/1351/joecanucksxv9.jpg)
Now Shiver wont feel so lonely.
Post by: Scramble on April 25, 2007, 08:30:26 PM
Post by: Redskull on April 25, 2007, 10:16:04 PM
Quote from: "Scramble"
It kind of looks like Black Ice has pigtails...
oh yeah thats his back pack, not the exact one, because I dont have it, buts its close enough.