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General Section => General Joe Talk => Topic started by: Kronz on April 07, 2009, 01:46:03 PM

Title: Shipping Joes to USA via Canada Post...
Post by: Kronz on April 07, 2009, 01:46:03 PM
OK so I am pretty frustrated with Canada Post right now. Since there is hardly any Joe product to buy in my area aside from five packs, I have amassed six Cobra sets. That leaves me with over a dozen figures to find homes for. So I put them on ebay knowing at the very least people will want Baroness. Since I am keeping all my Vipers and just one each of the rest I have a considerable amount of selling to do.

Anyway. So I have got single loose Joes from the states and it's usually marked with very inexpensive shipping, I think just under $2 for a small bubble envelope with one Joe in it. That's reasonable. So when I went to sell single Joes I figured I need to adjust for Canadian currency, postal rates and taxes so I put $4 for one figure and extras for $2.75. Now to Americans apparently that rate seems outrageously expensive and a clear sign I am trying to take profit out of the shipping rate. However when I went to ship one Baroness in small bubble mailer with two file cards and her accessories I was asked to pay nearly $6 to Seattle from London ON and that was the ground option.

Last week I shipped a box with four complete figures in figure bubbles in a small box it cost me nearly ten dollars. I thought THAT was expensive. Now I know I can't sell extra low-value figures on eBay.

Am I doing something wrong?
Title: Re: Shipping Joes to USA via Canada Post...
Post by: darth cujo on April 07, 2009, 06:11:39 PM
That's the joys of canada post. As soon as a "package" (even an envelope) cannot squeeze through that little slot they have as a measuring tool, it becomes a parcel and they charge an arm and a leg even if it is light as a feather. I have wanted to trade figures on forums such as this, but the cost of shipping is usually more than a figure is worth making it unreasonable. Very frustrating. To send a single figure it shouldn't cost more than a couple bucks, but unfortunately it does. So no, you're not dong anything wrong.
Title: Re: Shipping Joes to USA via Canada Post...
Post by: BHMike on April 07, 2009, 06:20:02 PM
I've found a way to send loose Joes to people - cheap.

Ask them first if they mind re-assembling them. Unscrew the back and put all parts in a ziplock bag, then a padded envelope. They slide through the slots easy enough and cheap enough.

Sadly, I just figured this out about a month or so ago.  :lol:
Title: Re: Shipping Joes to USA via Canada Post...
Post by: condor knight on April 07, 2009, 06:22:24 PM
Do you have a venture one card? if you do you should get 5% off the postage and if you pay online you get 6% off postage.
That is what I have been told from the post office.
Title: Re: Shipping Joes to USA via Canada Post...
Post by: Radio Guy on April 07, 2009, 06:32:45 PM
Quote from: "THE Mike?"
I've found a way to send loose Joes to people - cheap.

Ask them first if they mind re-assembling them. Unscrew the back and put all parts in a ziplock bag, then a padded envelope. They slide through the slots easy enough and cheap enough.

Sadly, I just figured this out about a month or so ago.  :lol:

that's brilliant!  i'm gonna try that next time i ship!
Title: Re: Shipping Joes to USA via Canada Post...
Post by: Canuklehead on April 07, 2009, 07:20:38 PM
Canada Post is stupid expensive.  I was selling some old Marvel Overpower Cards and a small stack in a small bubble envelope cost about $3.  Thank god I could avoid the whole customs slip dealy by calling them "Paper goods"...  long story short, Canada Post sucks.
Title: Re: Shipping Joes to USA via Canada Post...
Post by: Realboss on April 07, 2009, 09:34:05 PM
As long as the envelop isn't over 2cm in thickness you can use letter post.  I've done it many times.
Title: Re: Shipping Joes to USA via Canada Post...
Post by: martin-montreal on April 07, 2009, 10:06:55 PM
Quote from: "Kronz"
Now I know

... and knowing is half the battle!!  :wink:

The best way to avoid shipping fees, is to meet people at the Con, May 2!

I'm surprised Mike didn't tell you that before  :lol:

Martin
Title: Re: Shipping Joes to USA via Canada Post...
Post by: thatcarlguy on April 07, 2009, 11:35:27 PM
I once sent a Batman Begins poster to my friend in Georgia and I paid extra for 10 day shipping. It took 4 months...
Title: Re: Shipping Joes to USA via Canada Post...
Post by: freakx2001 on April 08, 2009, 08:11:58 AM
Canada Post has been killing me as well. Lately I've got into trading my ARAH Joe parts for stuff I need.  So I've worked out numerous deals for stuff, but the shipping always kills me. last week I got a couple of packages from some Americans, and the shipping was ~$1.18 & ~$1.35 for those little bubble envelopes. For me to send the same size package back it cost $6? that is crazy.

On a sidenote the shipping cost in the states is so cheap, and I hate when people in the USA on Ebay, think shipping to Canada is like some foreign country half way across the world and charge crazy expensive prices, then you get the package and its like 1/3 of what you paid...  >:(
Title: Re: Shipping Joes to USA via Canada Post...
Post by: Kronz on April 08, 2009, 01:45:26 PM
Man this is so frustrating. It's no wonder so few Canadian sellers are to be found on eBay these days. What I worry most about is that someone will try to "report" me for outrageous shipping even though I am taking a dive by offering it at less than I pay.

And a huge gripe abot eBay: there is no excuse for them to ban people from trying to cover the paypal and ebay fees in BiN listings. I mean c'mon. In my mind listing and payment fees are HANDLING. It makes sense that an auction with bidders could not adjust shipping and handling for a FVF but if it's BiN the sale price is accounted for.

Anyway, I think I will only sell things that will cause bidding wars if I have to list in the future. Trying to be charitable once again bites me in the ass.
Title: Re: Shipping Joes to USA via Canada Post...
Post by: BHMike on April 08, 2009, 02:01:40 PM
List a rough idea of what the shipping price is for your item BASED from CanadaPost.ca

Include a link and your postal code for them to check it out for themselves with your listings.

The fees are a part of using their service. I don't see why you would charge others to pay your fee. There was someone on here before that wanted me to pay his paypal fees if I bought something from him. I never bothered to reply.

What I don't agree with, is PayPal taking a portion of the shipping price as a TOTAL for the money you get. THAT cuts into any money you actually make. I've never liked that, and have always rounded up to the nearest dollar because of it.
Title: Re: Shipping Joes to USA via Canada Post...
Post by: Kronz on April 08, 2009, 02:22:48 PM
Well I would never ask someone to pay above and beyond their invoice price after the fact, that's silly. What I was saying really doesn't apply to regular eBay purchases where the product value outweighs the shipping cost. I don't think it's unreasonable to have a dollar or so of handling fees beyond the actual postal cost. Having used eBay for nearly a decade I have only very rarely received packages that didn't have a huge difference in price I paid to ship and the actual postage rate on the package. For years that's just how eBay was and it never seemed out of place to me to pay some handling costs  because that's how big business work too.

edit: I would also like to point out that I never DID charge anyone the Ebay and Paypal fees, I have invariably made none or a negative amount of profit when selling on their site.
Title: Re: Shipping Joes to USA via Canada Post...
Post by: canprime on April 08, 2009, 05:14:13 PM
A couple of things in regards to shipping/Ebay.

1) The USPS recently changed it's shipping prices and went with a similar system as Canada.  Meaning they now charge based on weight/dimensions and don't have the same flat rate as they used to.  The smaller packages do still come in at set rates, but regular packages don't.  So in time the US residents will be seeing similar rates to us for shipping.  Which is actually worse for us.

2) If you are using Ebay, try and get the exact dimensions/weight of the package.  You can put those into their calculator.  That way anyone interested can check the cost of shipping and it automatically gets put into the invoice.  It is calculated using Canadpost rates and you don't have to get quotes or explain pricing to anyone anymore.  I started doing this a few months ago and can't begin to say how much better it makes selling on Ebay.

3) Paypal fees/handling fees.  I personally don't like them, but they are a fact of doing business on Ebay now.  I don't charge extra for them unless it has to be done.  That usually only happens when special packaging is needed (post tubes, specialty envelopes/boxes).  However, if the person is upfront about the extra charge, then I don't see a problem.  You have the choice then to buy or not, but if they try to add it after the fact, then that is just scamming.
Title: Re: Shipping Joes to USA via Canada Post...
Post by: Kronz on April 09, 2009, 06:19:09 PM
Yeah good idea about using the calculator I think I will do that in the future if I sell.

Oh and today I shipped a bubble mailer with two Joes in it to Ohio and it was less than a dollar more than it had been to send a much smaller package with one in it. Sigh.
Title: Re: Shipping Joes to USA via Canada Post...
Post by: Kronz on April 10, 2009, 02:16:02 PM
I just found a digital scale at Wal-mart on clearance for $15 and have used it to calculate automatic shipping on my latest auction. Thanks again for the idea.
Title: Re: Shipping Joes to USA via Canada Post...
Post by: nighthawk on May 06, 2009, 05:25:10 PM
Basically, I will ship figures in bubble envelopes.  I will remove any vests so that the figure will squeeze through the 2 cm slot.  It costs $2.22CDN after taxes.  What really annoyed me was that I traded a Swamp Skier (the 25th one) for a Viper.  Becasue of the bulkiness, I think I paid $8 to ship that thing.  I was so pissed.