Post by: bandonov on March 05, 2011, 09:40:47 PM
http://www.filmshaft.com/g-i-joe-2-gets-a-summer-2012-release-date/ (http://www.filmshaft.com/g-i-joe-2-gets-a-summer-2012-release-date/)
I don’t believe in guilty pleasures. You either like something or you don’t. Just because it might be a little bit naff but passable crash-bang-wallop-what-a-movie entertainment doesn’t mean you should hang your head in shame. G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra, released all the way back in that balmy August of 2009, was one of those films. And for the record, I’ve a soft spot for another Stephen Sommers movie – Van Helsing. Yeah, yeah yeah.
Paramount liked G.I. Joe, too. So much so they’ve gone and hired both a director and announced the sequel’s release date. So pencil in August 10th, 2012. Because that’s when the second instalment of the action toy franchise will be getting an outing (at least in the US and A).
Stephen Sommers is not returning to the director’s chair for this one, and more interestingly a good majority of the cast aren’t, either. Jon Chu has been chosen to direct and yesterday star Rachel Nichols told the world via Twitter that there’s only a few original characters/cast returning with Lee Byung-hun (Storm Shadow), Ray Park (Snake Eyes) and Channing Tatum (Duke). Given Rachel Nichols’ tweet, can we gather she’ll be back?
Chu recently caught the Bieber Fever and made that documentary about the Canadian pop moppet. Quite why Paramount saw him as perfect for directing G.I. Joe 2 is a mystery best left unsolved. Although one doesn’t have to use Holmes-like powers of deduction to suggest the sequel will have a much lesser budget than Sommers’ film, which was bankrolled to the tune of $175 million dollars.
Joseph Gordon-Levitt isn’t returning to the cast as the baddie. Nor Dennis Quad, nor Sienna Miller. Let’s face it, Gordon-Levitt was a big sell for the first one, so any new additions/replacements to the cast will be noted with interest.
Expect more news on this in the coming weeks, months, etc, etc.
Post by: B on March 06, 2011, 08:47:04 AM
Post by: Redmao on March 06, 2011, 08:57:10 AM
With all the cool stuff coming for the PoC line it would be a shame to see it go away in favor of peg warmers...
Okay come on, let's be positive...
Post by: NeoDragonKnight on March 08, 2011, 06:17:11 PM
Post by: Pete The Greek on March 08, 2011, 10:57:16 PM
Quote from: "bandonov"
Joseph Gordon-Levitt isn’t returning to the cast as the baddie. Nor Dennis Quad, nor Sienna Miller. Let’s face it, Gordon-Levitt was a big sell for the first one, so any new additions/replacements to the cast will be noted with interest.
The person who wrote this is out to lunch. Joseph Gordon-Levitt considered a big sell for the movie? Are you kidding me? Not when the movie was coming out. And surely not after.
Miller not returning as the Baroness is fine by me. Should have never been hired in the first place. I hope they hire somebody who has a cup size and doesn't required to wear fake boobs.
Post by: latinjoe22 on March 08, 2011, 11:40:34 PM
Quote from: "Pete The Greek"
Miller not returning as the Baroness is fine by me. Should have never been hired in the first place. I hope they hire somebody who has a cup size and doesn't required to wear fake boobs. :lol:
Post by: Sundance on March 09, 2011, 06:44:49 AM
Post by: bandonov on March 09, 2011, 08:02:50 AM
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there's a report in today's Daily Mirror (UK paper) that Sienna Miller is said to be glad she's not coming back for 2, calling 1 'GI Joke' and said she was cast without Stephen Sommers meeting her, which she called 'a mistake' as she said the first thing he said to her was 'you're short'...
Ha Ha Ha! That made me laugh! Thanks for that cheer up!
Post by: bandonov on March 09, 2011, 08:42:47 AM
http://www.musicrooms.net/showbiz/28356-sienna-miller-my-movie-was-a-joke.html (http://http://www.musicrooms.net/showbiz/28356-sienna-miller-my-movie-was-a-joke.html)
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Sienna Miller says her film G.I. Joe: Rise of the Cobra “compromised” her.
The British actress is best known for starring in Layer Cake, Alfie and The Edge of Love. She starred in action adventure film G.I. Joe: Rise of the Cobra in 2009. The movie tells the story of an elite military unit comprised of special operatives known as G.I. Joe, who take on an evil organisation led by a notorious arms dealer.
Sienna – who starred alongside Channing Tatum and Dennis Quaid in the film - has revealed acting in the 2009 blockbuster was a “joke”.
“It compromised my values,” she is quoted as saying by British newspaper The Daily Mirror. “I didn’t feel too good about myself. It was a joke.”
Sienna, 29, also revealed that she didn’t meet director Stephen Sommers in casting sessions. The beauty says that because she hadn’t come face to face with Stephen before filming started she felt uncomfortable, and would never make the same mistake again.
“I got cast without the director having met me. Which was a first, and probably an error on their part,” she said. “The first thing he said to me was, ‘God, you’re really short.’ But in a Hollywood accent.”
Post by: morgardee on March 09, 2011, 08:46:34 AM
Post by: Jon S. on March 09, 2011, 12:39:45 PM
I felt like the people in the movie had never watched the cartoon or read the comics.
Any change is good change. The Joe cast is big enough to bring in new characters without diminishing its relation to the product (Flint, Lady Jaye, Roadblock, Serpentor, Dr. Mindbender and the Crimson Twins have enough personality to supplant the departing characters)
If they instead decide to replace the actors - even better!
Post by: ARROW on March 09, 2011, 04:19:08 PM
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I felt like the people in the movie had never watched the cartoon or read the comics.
But the cartoons were wretched and the comics even worse. Drawing inspiration from them would be the worst possible thing because they were both so horribly hokey.
Do people REALLY want someone on screen screeching like Chris Latta or doing an awful "female Bela Lugosi" like Morgan Lofting? That works in cartoons because its so broad, but in live-action, on the big screen..............oy vey.
Post by: Pete The Greek on March 09, 2011, 08:30:56 PM
Quote from: "Sundance"
there's a report in today's Daily Mirror (UK paper) that Sienna Miller is said to be glad she's not coming back for 2, calling 1 'GI Joke' and said she was cast without Stephen Sommers meeting her, which she called 'a mistake' as she said the first thing he said to her was 'you're short'...
This was known a while back from what I have read.
I wonder if "short" means your flat chested.
Post by: canprime on March 09, 2011, 08:36:56 PM
Post by: Jon S. on March 09, 2011, 08:55:53 PM
Quote from: "ARROW"
QuoteI felt like the people in the movie had never watched the cartoon or read the comics.
But the cartoons were wretched and the comics even worse. Drawing inspiration from them would be the worst possible thing because they were both so horribly hokey.
Do people REALLY want someone on screen screeching like Chris Latta or doing an awful "female Bela Lugosi" like Morgan Lofting? That works in cartoons because its so broad, but in live-action, on the big screen..............oy vey.
I think the hokeyness was part of the charm. There are hundreds of serious military flicks out there and action flicks trying to be as badass as they can be.
Chris Latta's Cobra Commander voice is one of the most iconic American cartoon voices ever recorded. Up there with Yogi Bear, Fred Flintstone and Kevin Conroy's Batman. (though decidedly nowhere near Homer Simpson)
Post by: morgardee on March 09, 2011, 09:07:50 PM
Quote from: "ARROW"
QuoteI felt like the people in the movie had never watched the cartoon or read the comics.
But the cartoons were wretched and the comics even worse. Drawing inspiration from them would be the worst possible thing because they were both so horribly hokey.
Do people REALLY want someone on screen screeching like Chris Latta or doing an awful "female Bela Lugosi" like Morgan Lofting? That works in cartoons because its so broad, but in live-action, on the big screen..............oy vey.
Trash to cartoon all you want but for the most part the comic wasn't hokey IMO. Larry did a lot of research on that stuff.
Post by: ARROW on March 09, 2011, 09:43:02 PM
Quote from: "morgardee"
Quote from: "ARROW"QuoteI felt like the people in the movie had never watched the cartoon or read the comics.
But the cartoons were wretched and the comics even worse. Drawing inspiration from them would be the worst possible thing because they were both so horribly hokey.
Do people REALLY want someone on screen screeching like Chris Latta or doing an awful "female Bela Lugosi" like Morgan Lofting? That works in cartoons because its so broad, but in live-action, on the big screen..............oy vey.
Trash to cartoon all you want but for the most part the comic wasn't hokey IMO. Larry did a lot of research on that stuff.
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaah, "lotta research".........giant walking machines coming out of the sea to threaten a launch a Cape Canaveral.... and its not hokey?
Actually my fav is this one: Stalker and Storm Shadow have just sent Snake-Eyes on a hard mission to keep him from becoming all maudlin over Scarlet who was shot in the head by the Baroness. They climb out of the belly of a B-2 and Storm Shadow comes up and says he detects a PASSIVE laser designator targeting him.
Yeaaaah, a passive device doesn't emit anything, so how can Storm Shadow detect it??
Yup, great research there. ::)
That's one of the ones that stuck with me, I do know there's a LOT of others ( especially in the artwork, a LOT of sloppy mistakes there).
Look, I'm being flippant and sarcastic in the same breath, and I'm NOT looking to get under anyone's skin. I think the GIJOE comics and the cartoons are VERY over-rated and come across quite poorly. I think the writing is VERY over-praised and doesn't reflect the real talents of Larry Hama. He's done far better work on other titles--but GIJOE is remembered more for some strange reason.
I've tried to sit down and read them all in some kind of systematic order but they are really are badly done and do not hold up at all--and I honestly cannot stomach more than a handful of issues before I have to stop.
I know there's a lot of other folks that see these things through rose-coloured glasses, and that's fine--its their prerogative to do so.
But critically speaking.............ugh.
I'm not a fan of the comics or cartoons.
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I think the hokeyness was part of the charm. There are hundreds of serious military flicks out there and action flicks trying to be as badass as they can be.
Back when ROC was in production, I wrote several times that I thought the idealized "GIJOE" movie has already been made: in the form of Megaforce. Starring Barry Bostwick and Persis Khambatta, its about a futuristic special mission force........and its the ultimate in suck. It'd be about the dumbest thing you'd ever watch.
BUT, in terms of how GIJOE has been portrayed in the comics and cartoons, Megaforce is, imo, GIJOE to a tee.
Its charming in its campiness, audacious in how cheezy it is, and unbelievably hokey........which is what GIJOE is.
GIJOE sure isn't Blackhawk Down, its superheroes and super-villains in a military context--I hate to break it to anyone who thinks otherwise.......its about as far from realistic as it can get, and in a way, I'm glad for that.
I'm a fan of the ROC movie.
I think it set out to translate what GIJOE is, and did so admirably.
But I'm not a fan of the cartoons and comics ( as I have stated), but I AM a fan of the toys. And the ROC movie translated much of how I saw the toys in my own head.
Post by: bandonov on March 09, 2011, 10:35:41 PM
We need a comedy relief post now...
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Post by: ARROW on March 09, 2011, 10:37:19 PM
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Wow... That was serious and with examples too...
We need a comedy relief post now...
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Cancer???
Damn it anyway..........I was TRYING to give you strep throat!!
Post by: Pete The Greek on March 09, 2011, 11:29:16 PM
Post by: Sundance on March 10, 2011, 02:23:28 AM
Post by: Jon S. on March 10, 2011, 07:55:27 AM
Quote from: "Pete The Greek"
The cartoon was aimed for kids. Hence, it should be hokey as it's a glorified commercial to sell toys. You think if the cartoon in the 1980s was made like Resolute we would even be talking Joe today? I highly doubt it.
Even Resolute was cheesy with its melodrama. (refer to Storm Shadow's monologues, Scarlett and Duke's back 'n forth, Cobra Commander constantly berating and occasionally offing his followers) It was just a different kind of cheesy. (an asiago instead of a processed cheddar if I dare say)
I'm pretty sure Hama intended the comic to be absurdist (and it is). He just sprinkled in enough military knowledge and reality to keep the reader hooked.
Post by: pdaat on March 10, 2011, 08:44:47 AM
Critically, whatever we enjoyed (comics, cartoons) may not stand up. Many of us are willing to fight to our dying breath to defend them though. To me - I loved the comics. What did I love? The learning. Mr. Hama threw in points here and there based on actual fact. He frequently threw in facts, words or terms that I had to look up (sub rosa was the latest in issue 162) and I still look forward to that. I agree that Hama does try for the absurd, the eccentric. The cartoon was not my cuppa, especially during the Shipwreck years (breakdancing in general made me wince, and to see Snake Eyes do it............). But to some people, that was what brought them in. They hold it near and dear.
As for ROC, much of it was only what they could have possibly done - as David Willis points out with Transformers, adult fans would never get a Ful Metal Jacket type film (they wouldn't like it if they did get it anyway). The plot for ROC was just another typical Joe story. I thought it was FINE. Wayans did a great job portraying the character he was HIRED to portray. I think there were several mis-casts, but again, this is my opinion. I am just glad we got a movie. Will the new director pull it off? Who knows. What concerns me is his lack of action film experience. Hopefully the writers will come through.
Post by: bandonov on March 10, 2011, 08:46:37 AM
Quote from: "Sundance"
there's a report in today's Daily Mirror (UK paper) that Sienna Miller is said to be glad she's not coming back for 2, calling 1 'GI Joke' and said she was cast without Stephen Sommers meeting her, which she called 'a mistake' as she said the first thing he said to her was 'you're short'...
Oops... I quoted the wrong story that Sundance said... he is the UK article:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2011/03/09/sienna-miller-calls-g-i-joe-a-g-i-joke-115875-22975947/ (http://http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2011/03/09/sienna-miller-calls-g-i-joe-a-g-i-joke-115875-22975947/)
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Sienna Miller calls G.I. Joe a "G.I. Joke"
by Ashleigh Rainbird, Daily Mirror 9/03/2011
SIENNA Miller has a sense of humour. Who’d have thought?
The actress, 29, branded her 2009 action flop G.I. Joe: Rise of the Cobra a “G.I. Joke” yesterday, and revealed she has “got out of” returning for a sequel.
“It compromised my values,” she said. “I didn’t feel too good about myself.”
Read On... AdsValues? Anyway, the main problem with the film, she explains, was that she hadn’t met director Stephen Sommers in casting sessions. Yes. That was the problem.
“I got cast without the director having met me. Which was a first, and probably an error on their part,” she said.
“The first thing he said to me was, ‘God, you’re really short.’ But in a Hollywood accent.”
Post by: Redmao on March 10, 2011, 11:28:25 AM
Quote from: "Pete The Greek"
The cartoon was aimed for kids. Hence, it should be hokey as it's a glorified commercial to sell toys. You think if the cartoon in the 1980s was made like Resolute we would even be talking Joe today? I highly doubt it.I watched the Mass Device series yesterday and that stuff is still awesome in my book.
Action, adventure and funny one-liners.
Post by: SnowHawk on March 11, 2011, 08:54:55 AM
It is also easy to explain that Cobra Commander, Destro and Baroness won't be in the movie, they are still in the detention center on the Flagg.
The new movie needs a villain and I would like to see Serpentor or the Crimson Twins. Serpentor doesn't have to be a clone. You could use the same character from IDW's Cobra comic.
The movie will probably show a smaller team (possibly 6 team members) since there isn't a Cobra threat anymore. I hope they introduce some new characters like Gung Ho, Wild Bill, Stalker and Lady Jaye.
I am just excited to see a new G.I. Joe movie. Rise of Cobra wasn't the best movie ever, but I love it.
Post by: Jon S. on March 11, 2011, 12:58:41 PM
Will Brendan Fraser be returning?
Post by: bandonov on March 11, 2011, 01:10:10 PM
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I think the biggest most important question hasn't been answered (or even asked)
Will Brendan Fraser be returning?
Nope, he is out too!
Post by: Realboss on March 11, 2011, 10:03:27 PM
The only people who I think were cast properly in the first place were Snake Eyes, Storm Shadow, Heavy Duty, Zartan, and Hawk (and Dennis Quad was a last minute because his son talked him into it) and I'm on the fence with Destro. I always thought the person playing Destro should be tall and stocky.
Post by: ARROW on March 12, 2011, 12:48:07 AM
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It's interesting how all of the actors trash the movie now, but they sure as heck don't complain about the paycheck. Stick it in your grandma Sienna and learn how to act first then you can come to me and complain about a movie you were in being bad. Look at yourself first.
Do you realize how out of place that sentiment is? Do you love every day at work? If you do, hey that's great, but its sure not universal.
I've worked on a lot of shitty cartoons in my time, but some of them are favourites of people ( kids, adults, whoever) that watch them.
However that simple fact doesn't make the cartoons any less shitty. I'd be dishonest if I played up the turds just because someone else likes them. They are still turds. I know the kind of sentiment Miller speaks of very well.
I don't complain about the pay-cheques either, by the way.
Let's face it, sometimes at the end of the day this stuff is just a job that people do for pay and little else. Yeah, it "means something" to the fans, but THAT is all in the fan's head. For those that do it professionally, this stuff isn't always the kind of thing they are fans of, or even like, and YES they are just there to do the job they are asked to do and to collect a pay-cheque.
Post by: Sundance on March 12, 2011, 02:28:28 AM
Post by: Jon S. on March 12, 2011, 11:09:29 AM
Quote from: "Sundance"
what pisses me off is when they say 'oh it was a great experience' or 'oh, i was a fan as a kid' and THEN turn around and trash it when it doesn't do well.
You make it sound like you weren't expecting to hear doubletalk out of Hollywood.
Megan Fox did the exact same thing with Transformers.
Post by: Sundance on March 12, 2011, 11:51:06 AM
Post by: Realboss on March 12, 2011, 11:56:20 AM
Quote from: "ARROW"
QuoteIt's interesting how all of the actors trash the movie now, but they sure as heck don't complain about the paycheck. Stick it in your grandma Sienna and learn how to act first then you can come to me and complain about a movie you were in being bad. Look at yourself first.
Do you realize how out of place that sentiment is? Do you love every day at work? If you do, hey that's great, but its sure not universal.
I've worked on a lot of shitty cartoons in my time, but some of them are favourites of people ( kids, adults, whoever) that watch them.
However that simple fact doesn't make the cartoons any less shitty. I'd be dishonest if I played up the turds just because someone else likes them. They are still turds. I know the kind of sentiment Miller speaks of very well.
I don't complain about the pay-cheques either, by the way.
Let's face it, sometimes at the end of the day this stuff is just a job that people do for pay and little else. Yeah, it "means something" to the fans, but THAT is all in the fan's head. For those that do it professionally, this stuff isn't always the kind of thing they are fans of, or even like, and YES they are just there to do the job they are asked to do and to collect a pay-cheque.
The difference here is; I don't go around to the media and publicly trash a multi-million dollar property after being handed a large six figure paycheck and I doubt you have ever done the same. Complaining to friends and co workers is one thing. It's not to the extreme as Charlie Sheen but to me that is just as unprofessional and in poor taste. In my opinion that can not be excused my friends. Hollywood's biggest problem is these actors feel they are entitled to say what they please because they hit it big.
That doesn't fly with me.
Post by: ARROW on March 12, 2011, 02:10:15 PM
Quote from: "Realboss"
Quote from: "ARROW"QuoteIt's interesting how all of the actors trash the movie now, but they sure as heck don't complain about the paycheck. Stick it in your grandma Sienna and learn how to act first then you can come to me and complain about a movie you were in being bad. Look at yourself first.
Do you realize how out of place that sentiment is? Do you love every day at work? If you do, hey that's great, but its sure not universal.
I've worked on a lot of shitty cartoons in my time, but some of them are favourites of people ( kids, adults, whoever) that watch them.
However that simple fact doesn't make the cartoons any less shitty. I'd be dishonest if I played up the turds just because someone else likes them. They are still turds. I know the kind of sentiment Miller speaks of very well.
I don't complain about the pay-cheques either, by the way.
Let's face it, sometimes at the end of the day this stuff is just a job that people do for pay and little else. Yeah, it "means something" to the fans, but THAT is all in the fan's head. For those that do it professionally, this stuff isn't always the kind of thing they are fans of, or even like, and YES they are just there to do the job they are asked to do and to collect a pay-cheque.
The difference here is; I don't go around to the media and publicly trash a multi-million dollar property after being handed a large six figure paycheck and I doubt you have ever done the same. Complaining to friends and co workers is one thing. It's not to the extreme as Charlie Sheen but to me that is just as unprofessional and in poor taste. In my opinion that can not be excused my friends. Hollywood's biggest problem is these actors feel they are entitled to say what they please because they hit it big.
That doesn't fly with me.
So its just a matter of scale?? What's the difference then? 6 figure income means anything different from a 4-figure income?
Crap is crap, and denying that is absurd.
Because one is paid to do something doesn't mean they divest themselves of an opinion, public or private. The profession is to do the work to meet the needs of the product or the client..........not to cheerlead it when it doesn't really deserve it. Oh, sure, sometimes one is paid to cheerlead as well, to sell the darn thing--but to cheerlead it forever? Nah, the payout only goes so far and then, imo, the personal opinions can kick back into play. An actor's profession is to play the part of a role, and when that role is done to move on and play another different part. If/when they are cut loose from obligations to continue the part, then sure--they can speak their mind.
If they have done their job, made their client/employer happy, then that is all that really matters. What the audience thinks isn't relevant.
Couple of years ago, I was discussing cartoons with a store owner I know, and I mentioned that I had worked on Yvon of the Yukon. As I said that, a lady came out from behind some of the racks in the store and proceeded to rant and berate me for working on this "insulting and horrible" cartoon. She just wouldn't let up.
I let her go at it, let hre rant until she was finished and then calmly told her that it was just a job I was hired to do, and that her reaction was all out of proportion to what the thing was, and what my involvement in it was. That and if she didn't like it, or did not like the work done on it, there was NOTHING stopping her from changing the channel and watching something else.
That is the gist of it.
The folks that make this stuff are NOT beholden to the audience in ANY WAY. Believing that they are is a bizarre myth that a lot of fans and audiences seem to perpetuate. The actors do not have to be likeable or even personable off-camera--or even like the show they are on because they are just hired to play a part--and the audience isn't the one signing the cheque.
The only thing Sienna Miller is "guilty" of is having an opinion that fans don't think she should have, but its one she is perfectly entitled to have.
Oh, and I have gone around and trashed multi-million dollar properties--and I'll do it right now. I just finished storyboard work on Speed Racer: the Next Generation. This thing is the biggest piece of monkey dung I have worked on in a long time. Go check it out on Youtube--its there. Its a FLASH animate cartoon, with wretched CGI--this thing is just awful. Reason: it done on the cheap. Yeah.....a 6 million dollar budget for the 26 episode season and its done like utter manure.
Part of the problem is that there's greedy fingers pinching dollars all along the way on this thing--so much so that by the time the money trickles down to the production level, the pay-outs are dismal. They have to get some incompetent hack shop in India to animate this garbage because they cannot (or refuse to afford) anything better.
In a word, this stiff is pap. That is ALL it is. Its nothing special.........its riding the coattails of the movie and cashing in on a brand name.
There is NOTHING about this cartoon that will set the world on fire.
And so much so that some of the investors in the show figured they could play Bollywood mogul--until it came time to actually invest money into the production.
Then they balked.
It was fun playing bigshot, I'm sure..until it came time to put their money where their mouth is
Preproduction on the show was supposed to have been finished 4 months ago--but that came to a screeching halt when these Indian "investors" refused to cough up their obligated cash injections to keep the production going. I was unpaid for 4 months and withheld my last few storyboards until I got assurances from the production that I would be paid--and every other storyboard artists on the project did the same.
Apparently its all been sorted out and production has resumed as we speak.
Now, that might sound like a bitter rant, it might sound inprofessional........but its not. THAT is business as usual, in one of many variations on a theme that plague the animation business. It happens......not all the time, not even often........but it happens.
Its the reality behind the fantasy of the making of cartoons--something that a LOT of viewers think are just some innocent little things.
Ho, far from it.
Their misperception doesn't hide the fact that crap is crap. Some kids might LOVE Speed Racer the Next Generation. It might ignite the fire in their souls, fuel their imagination......but that is on them. I've shared this snippet to justify the opinion I have of this specific example, and to give insight into WHY such opinions come about.
Post by: Realboss on March 12, 2011, 04:29:42 PM
Post by: Jon S. on March 12, 2011, 08:12:56 PM
@ Arrow: Many people trash their job, but very few do it via national media outlets. It was an unclassy move. Plain and simple.
Post by: bandonov on March 12, 2011, 09:17:50 PM
What I did not like from Sienna's comments was that it “It compromised my values,” “I didn’t feel too good about myself.”
If she just said it was a bad movie, I did not want to do another one, I would have respected her more.
Either way, I will still see the sequel no matter how bad it is...
Post by: SnowHawk on March 14, 2011, 08:43:07 AM
The great thing is with the next movie being a re-boot of sorts, is we will get a different G.I. Joe movie. It's vision will be very different and be a different experience. I am excited for it.
The comics is a good example. I love Larry Hama's work but Chuck Dixon, Mike Costa and Max Brooks all do a great job as well. It is all the same stuff, just shown a different way.
Post by: pdaat on March 14, 2011, 09:42:05 AM
Quote from: "ARROW"
Couple of years ago, I was discussing cartoons with a store owner I know, and I mentioned that I had worked on Yvon of the Yukon. As I said that, a lady came out from behind some of the racks in the store and proceeded to rant and berate me for working on this "insulting and horrible" cartoon. She just wouldn't let up.My kids loved Yvon of the Yukon.
I let her go at it, let hre rant until she was finished and then calmly told her that it was just a job I was hired to do, and that her reaction was all out of proportion to what the thing was, and what my involvement in it was. That and if she didn't like it, or did not like the work done on it, there was NOTHING stopping her from changing the channel and watching something else.
They loved the Speed Racer movie. Next Generation? Not so much?
At the end of the day, why complain? Do or do not. Most times bemoaning things does nothing. My Dad had a phrase - "Opinions are live a--holes - everyonen has one. So what?"
I think I little tirade at work will cost me a manager spot though..........I usually don't say much. But then I do........ :-
Post by: Redmao on March 14, 2011, 09:53:05 AM
Quote from: "bandonov"
What I did not like from Sienna's comments was that it “It compromised my values,” “I didn’t feel too good about myself.”It's only action flick based on a toy line for crying out loud. It's not a porno, she didn't have to slaughter cute kittens, nor did she have to yell slogans for such and such brand.
Her values? I mean she read the script before signing up...right? The part is about an evil gun totting terrorist woman.
Where were her values then? It's just not cool.
More on topic, I'll probably see the sequel as well.
Post by: Pete The Greek on March 14, 2011, 11:23:40 AM
Quote from: "Redmao"
Quote from: "bandonov"What I did not like from Sienna's comments was that it “It compromised my values,” “I didn’t feel too good about myself.”It's only action flick based on a toy line for crying out loud. It's not a porno, she didn't have to slaughter cute kittens, nor did she have to yell slogans for such and such brand.
Her values? I mean she read the script before signing up...right? The part is about an evil gun totting terrorist woman.
Where were her values then? It's just not cool.
More on topic, I'll probably see the sequel as well.
She is using the "compromised my values" as an excuse to save what is left of her 15 minute Hollywood career. She was looking for the spring board leap in her career that Megan Fox got from Transformers and it didn't happen with GI JOE.
And if the role she signed up for did really compromise her values, wouldn't you think she would have quit during the filming of the movie? To come out and say this after the movie was released, with reviews already done, is a joke on her end.
Post by: dodge822 on March 14, 2011, 11:32:00 AM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1583421/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1583421/)
Post by: bandonov on March 14, 2011, 11:53:52 AM
Quote from: "dodge822"
imdb still has no information on the joe sequal, but i thought i would post the link, so that we can follow it their also.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1583421/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1583421/)
You need a IMDBPRO account to see any info... That sucks!
Post by: morgardee on March 14, 2011, 11:56:01 AM
Case in point:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3796846/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3796846/)
Post by: pdaat on March 14, 2011, 12:35:33 PM
Quote from: "morgardee"
They'll let any knuckle head on IMDB nowadays.You are famous!!
Case in point:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3796846/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3796846/)
Post by: bandonov on March 14, 2011, 01:01:49 PM
Quote from: "morgardee"
They'll let any knuckle head on IMDB nowadays.
Case in point:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3796846/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3796846/)
+1 for being FAMOUS!
Post by: ARROW on March 14, 2011, 01:04:52 PM
Quote from: "pdaat"
Quote from: "morgardee"They'll let any knuckle head on IMDB nowadays.You are famous!!
Case in point:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3796846/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3796846/)
Yeah, I'm on IMDB too, but the entry was made by someone else.............and they got a ton of info wrong about me. I went in and tried to fix it and add to the listed filmography but the process is so tedious I gave up about 1/2 into it.
I contacted IMDB about the listing made about me ( it was done by a former student of mine and I was NOT consulted) and was told that most of the entries are NOT made by the people featured in the entry, or their reps--and that a great deal of the info is often wrong. They also cannot be bothered to go in and verify any of it either. Ugh.
Post by: pdaat on March 14, 2011, 01:21:22 PM
Quote from: "ARROW"
We have the Speed Racer Next Gen Movie. What is your title in the creds?Quote from: "pdaat"Quote from: "morgardee"They'll let any knuckle head on IMDB nowadays.You are famous!!
Case in point:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3796846/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3796846/)
Yeah, I'm on IMDB too, but the entry was made by someone else.............and they got a ton of info wrong about me. I went in and tried to fix it and add to the listed filmography but the process is so tedious I gave up about 1/2 into it.
I contacted IMDB about the listing made about me ( it was done by a former student of mine and I was NOT consulted) and was told that most of the entries are NOT made by the people featured in the entry, or their reps--and that a great deal of the info is often wrong. They also cannot be bothered to go in and verify any of it either. Ugh.
Post by: ARROW on March 14, 2011, 02:24:40 PM
Quote from: "pdaat"
Quote from: "ARROW"We have the Speed Racer Next Gen Movie. What is your title in the creds?Quote from: "pdaat"Quote from: "morgardee"They'll let any knuckle head on IMDB nowadays.You are famous!!
Case in point:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3796846/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3796846/)
Yeah, I'm on IMDB too, but the entry was made by someone else.............and they got a ton of info wrong about me. I went in and tried to fix it and add to the listed filmography but the process is so tedious I gave up about 1/2 into it.
I contacted IMDB about the listing made about me ( it was done by a former student of mine and I was NOT consulted) and was told that most of the entries are NOT made by the people featured in the entry, or their reps--and that a great deal of the info is often wrong. They also cannot be bothered to go in and verify any of it either. Ugh.
Didn't do the movie, worked on storyboards on the second season--which is in production now. Not sure when it will be aired--because of the 4-6 month "hiatus", and not even sure if I will get screen credit. That's not always guaranteed!
Heck, I've done jobs that ended up being credited to someone else--for reasons that were never fully explained. Nature of the biz, it seems.
Post by: pdaat on April 05, 2011, 08:26:15 AM
http://www.theterrordrome.com/2011/04/p ... g-i-joe-2/ (http://www.theterrordrome.com/2011/04/producer-lorenzo-di-bonaventura-may-leave-paramount-also-is-cross-country-in-g-i-joe-2/)
I want to see a new one made to see what they can do.
I just wish we weren't getting the what seem to be semi-annual reboots to the franchise.
Post by: Pete The Greek on April 05, 2011, 08:43:37 AM
And Bonaventura can take his ball and bat and go home. This was the ass clown who thought the iconic look of Cobra Commander was a joke. The ROC version one was a bigger joke.
Post by: Redmao on April 05, 2011, 10:13:43 AM
Something fresh without the bitter taste of Miller and Wayans.
Make a Renegades movie and it will be better than Rise of Cobra.
Post by: bandonov on April 05, 2011, 10:35:10 AM
Quote from: "Redmao"
Make a Renegades movie and it will be better than Rise of Cobra.
I'm so curious as the web is filled with so many rumors. Not sure what is real or fake.
Post by: Sundance on April 05, 2011, 12:41:49 PM
characters: CC, Destro, Baroness, Major Bludd, Hawk, Flint, Jaye, Scarlett, Snakes, Beach-Head, Grunt, Ace and Doc.
classic HISS tanks, Ferrets, Strikers, FANGs, Skystriker...
Post by: 5h4rK on April 06, 2011, 02:11:07 PM
Quote from: "Sundance"
i could do a reboot for them. i'll write it and direct it.
characters: CC, Destro, Baroness, Major Bludd, Hawk, Flint, Jaye, Scarlett, Snakes, Beach-Head, Grunt, Ace and Doc.
classic HISS tanks, Ferrets, Strikers, FANGs, Skystriker...
I love you! ;D
Post by: Sundance on April 06, 2011, 03:54:54 PM
the plot would involve Cobra up to shenanigans with CC as a Machiavellian schemer, Destro, Baroness and Bludd trying to one up one another to curry favour and Destro and Baroness in love.
Flint and Jaye would be together. Snakes and Scarlett would be together and there'd be a dogfight between Ace/Jaye in the Skystriker and Cobra's FANGs.
and Cobra would have multiple troop types, like HISS Drivers, Vipers, FANG Pilots and HISS Gunners...
and there'd be a major battle in a major American city at the end.
lots of 'splosions. and slow-mo. and sunsets.
sorry, came over a bit Michael Bay there...
Post by: bandonov on April 06, 2011, 05:08:51 PM
Post by: pdaat on April 06, 2011, 07:10:55 PM
Post by: Sundance on April 07, 2011, 02:00:19 AM
Nor would i start in media res and then flashback to several hours earlier before continuing the story.
Post by: Sundance on April 14, 2011, 12:12:56 PM
Jon Chu tries to defend his appointment.
Post by: bandonov on April 14, 2011, 01:24:26 PM
Post by: Redmao on April 14, 2011, 03:25:48 PM
Post by: Recon on May 03, 2011, 02:11:32 PM
Okay, I didn't grow up with the 3-3/4" Joes and didn't know much about the history. As a film, I went into it with the expectation of being entertained; I parked my disbelief at the door and it all worked out for me. Could it have been smoother? Yeah but I still had a blast. I've got a DVD copy but I'm waiting for the Blu-ray price to drop to pick it up.
Not really sure about Chu though for the same reason others have mentioned. Can shooting dance scenes be compared to battle/fight scenes? ???
Post by: Sundance on May 03, 2011, 02:15:44 PM
Post by: turner on May 03, 2011, 02:48:22 PM
Post by: aaronxvx on June 27, 2011, 06:06:19 PM
My only hope is that the toy line for this movie doesn't have pretty much every figure come with an oversized missle launcher that they can't hold.
Post by: Sundance on June 28, 2011, 02:20:56 AM
flint and Blind Master added.
Post by: grunt 4 mvp on June 28, 2011, 04:25:19 PM
People on the link panned RZA as the blind master, but in the comics he was black, so no argument on the 'race' card. I think it's a great choice. Also he is a huge fan of martial arts. Saw an interview (some show with Nerd in the title) where the interviewer challenged RZA to kick something off the top of his head while standing. He did it, no problem. Cold. Also had a small cameo in "Ghost Dog", one of the best martial arts flicks since Bruce Lee.
And let's not forget that he and Quentin Tarantino made the soundtrack to "Kill Bill" absolutely legendary. Plus, another name adds to box office sales.
Post by: Sundance on June 30, 2011, 04:15:38 PM
di Bonaventura promises a big role for Roadblock (no surprise) and lots o' ninja action...
Post by: pdaat on July 01, 2011, 12:54:21 PM
Post by: Sundance on July 01, 2011, 02:04:07 PM
i hope they put her in a tight green jumpsuit, with the zip halfway down her cleavage, but failing that, RIA will do since Rachel looked fit in that.
Post by: pdaat on July 01, 2011, 02:42:38 PM
Quote from: "Sundance"
yeah, adrienne palicki from the Wonder Woman pilot. *drool*They better get her to practice her running face.
i hope they put her in a tight green jumpsuit, with the zip halfway down her cleavage, but failing that, RIA will do since Rachel looked fit in that.
Post by: Sundance on July 09, 2011, 02:16:57 AM
ray stevenson to play Firefly. (him off Rome, who was Volstagg in Thor and Punisher in Punisher: War Zone)
Post by: SnowHawk on July 11, 2011, 12:09:15 PM
Post by: Sundance on July 28, 2011, 02:15:29 AM
and Joseph Mazarello (sledge in The Pacific) has been cast as Mouse.
Post by: bandonov on July 28, 2011, 08:26:09 AM
Post by: ARROW on August 09, 2011, 11:04:00 PM
Interesting news, hope it pans out.
Post by: pdaat on August 18, 2011, 01:03:03 AM
Post by: Sundance on August 18, 2011, 02:35:22 AM
Roadblock on set.
Post by: grunt 4 mvp on August 18, 2011, 02:04:03 PM
But the biggest win is that I don't see Marlon Wayans (or any of the Wayans) mentioned.
...and Storm Shadow is back, not 'killed off'.
Am I wrong to be excited?
Post by: SnowHawk on August 18, 2011, 02:38:41 PM
They've cast Grunt and Lt. Falcon too!!
Who is playing Grunt and Falcon?
Post by: Sundance on August 20, 2011, 02:29:53 PM
Post by: Sundance on August 31, 2011, 02:33:19 AM
DeRay Davies has been cast. i dunno who he is, but the Rock tweeted he's joined the cast, but not said who he's playing.
Post by: pdaat on September 02, 2011, 04:08:51 PM
Post by: Sundance on September 03, 2011, 02:18:32 AM
Post by: Sundance on November 02, 2011, 03:27:34 AM
ET talks to The Rock on set and a bit to Adrienne and DJ.