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Yearly CanJoeCon Discussion / The MOC Version of the Figure.
« on: February 09, 2004, 11:27:23 AM »

Thanks for making the offer to give up your figure... You are a really cool guy!

But DON'T GIVE IT UP!  The figure is yours and you definitely deserve to have it!!

Yearly CanJoeCon Discussion / The MOC Version of the Figure.
« on: February 09, 2004, 11:22:55 AM »

I started to write you an email because I had gotten advice that that was the best way to handle it -- not on a public forum

But then I received an email alerting me to this thread and I realized that you had made the choice to make this public - so, I wrote my email to you here!

Yes, I am going to get involved!  Colin is my son!!

He told me that the encounter with you was the scariest experience of his life!!!

You say you would not have hit him?  He doesn't know you -- and your body posture and yelling was threatening.  You yourself said in the above post:

               "Talking after the fact and saying "I would of hit you" is heresay..... Does it mean I would of? No. Does it mean I wouldn't of? No. Neither of us know.... "

What on earth do you think Colin was to think!  Blake told me that he started to take off his jacket ready to come help Colin if it did come to blows!!

And, by the way, Colin would have had NO PROBLEM at all trading the figure back to Deadshot, had Deadshot wanted to do so  without having firt been intimidated by you into making that request!!!

Colin was just doing his best - as a kid - to stand up to a person who had bullied his friend and was now bullying him!!!

Mike -- instead of making excuses, man -- Just make apologies!!

Let's end this!

Yearly CanJoeCon Discussion / The MOC Version of the Figure.
« on: February 09, 2004, 09:10:58 AM »
I have an idea that might work as a solution to "who gets the MOC figure"

Mike, maybe you could make 2 more MOC figures IDENTICAL to the one you have now -- and then there would be 3 figures - and each of the 3 people involved could have their very own figure!

You could even mix up the 3 figures before sending them to each of the guys - so that all the figures have equal validitiy.  

This way, 2 of them would be in Canada - and 1 in the US - Would that work for you?  For the others involved?

I havn't spoken to Colin yet about this as he has already left for school - but I bet he would be happy with this solution.

I know for him the point is not being the owner of a "one of a kind" piece - but it is the honor of having a piece of Joe convention history that was, according to him, so exceptionally well done!!!  

Apparently the card art was wonderful and the text on the back of the card was truly inspirational!  Colin tells me that Mike just did an outstanding job on this careded figure!!

Being the owner of one of a "three of a kind" internationally held piece would equally as good!

Mike, would you be willing to do that? To make 2 more figures?

They would have to be EXACTLY  the same as the one you have (and you probably already have the template for them) otherwise they would just be customs.  Not that customs aren't great in and of themselves - but what makes this piece special is that it is tied to a convention--that it commemorates a special time when a bunch of Joe fans got together to mess around with Joes and share great complany!

Any feedback on this idea?  Or other ideas that would work such that everyone involved feels good about the outcome?

Yearly CanJoeCon Discussion / The MOC Version of the Figure.
« on: February 08, 2004, 06:33:26 PM »
The thing is.... there WAS a second draw - That's just the simple fact!  and it was Mike who decided to have it.

As to why is it worth all this fuss?  Colin just got home and he and Blake have now given me more details--  The threat of violence to my son was actually much worse than I thought!  Mike is a big guy and was up in Colin's face yelling and ready to punch!!!

Mike had previously taken Deadshot out of the room and bullied him as well -- Deadshot came back into the room white as a sheet!

Several people left the con because of Mike's screaming--

Yes, I would say this is worth talking abou!!

Mike, do what you can, man, to make this right.  I have received emails and you have upset a lot of people!

General Joe Talk / Answer this please....20 members = 20 answers?
« on: February 08, 2004, 05:25:00 PM »
"If both sides are happy with a trade, who are we to criticize?"

AGREED - 100% correct!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yearly CanJoeCon Discussion / The MOC Version of the Figure.
« on: February 08, 2004, 03:22:03 PM »
I apologize for my typos in the above post!!

I can't find a way to go back in and edit...

Yearly CanJoeCon Discussion / The MOC Version of the Figure.
« on: February 08, 2004, 03:20:10 PM »

I understand the sentiment of wanting to keep the MOC figure in Canada...

But this is a TOY -- a figure!  a fun piece of history!!!

Threatening bodily harm to my son to keep it in Canada was definitely NOT COOL!!!

As to who should get it....

Well, you essentially "stole" it from my son --  I don't know why you should have any decision making powers over it!!

You made a big point before the con, letting everyone know that you needed to be actually present to get a convention figure -- Taht seemed VERY important to you!

By the same token, you made the decision that in order to win the raffled MOC figure, you needed to be present...

The first person, wasn't there, so he forfeited..  (That's hard, but it's reality and it's only fair - everybody else went by the rules!!)

The second person who won it, Deadshot, won it fair and square - and once it was his, it was his to do as he pleased!!!  Even if you don't like his choice.  It is HIS choice!!!

He opted to trace it to my son, Colin, because he knows how much Colin wanted it - the lengths to which he had done everything in his power to get to the convention - and he knew that, by letting Colin have it, it would be featured in my upcoming book and the CXanuck Con and Bounty Hunter toys would get lots of great press!

I think it was really decent and cool of him to do that!

Bottom line, Deadshot won it fair and square -- Whatever he wished to do with it was his business and not yours or any one elses!  

What you did to my son, was REALLY WRONG!!!

Here is a teenager - a highschooler -- out on a cool trip to make new friends and just overall have a great experience -- and you first try legalese on him (Hasbro said it couldn't be sold and trading it was tantamount to selling it...  By the way, was Hasbro really involved in the production of the figure -- if so, that's really cool!)

But then you threaten to jump up and down on my son's belongings and "smash everything"  and then to smash my son!

All in the name of keeping a figure in Canada?????

My son is a cool kid and I am so glad that he surrendered the figure to you rather than risk escalating the violence--  Maybe the police should have been called in - but it is over - you took it from him.

Deadshot has his red Crimson Twins, I am going to pick Colin and his buddy up at the airport pretty soon, and hopefully, put this behind us.

By the way, if it was so important to you to keep the figure in Canada, why did you let Colin participate in the raffle?  He bought 30 tickets!

Why not let everyone know ahead of time:  Canadians only!

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