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General Section => General Joe Talk => Topic started by: bishop on October 23, 2021, 06:52:49 PM
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Haslab is crowdfunding the skystriker... cool, however, they are returning to o-ring figures!!! I am so excited to see new o-ring figures such as pilot scarlet, crew staff, etc.
https://hasbropulse.com/collections/haslab/products/g-i-joe-skystriker
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No word of a lie, but I nearly shed a tear at that Skystriker reveal. I was already so excited by the Classified, and o-ring, reveals, but that Skystriker had me going nuts. And all those accessories, figures, vehicles, etc. etc. etc.
I know it is expensive, but it is Haslab so you have to accept a little sticker shock when they reveal them. I'm definitely in for 1, but most likely 2 since shipping will cost the same whether I order 1, or 2.
I love that the classic O-ring style is back. I have no problem with Retro, but I felt the new figures were too "gummy" and not interesting enough to warrant the price. I also think Hasbro saw what other lines were doing (MOTU:O, TMNT, etc.) and the success they had with giving fans the vintage (styled) figures they always wanted. I was a little bummed at first when I saw SE/SS were packed in a box, but then found out they come on their classic cards!!!!!
Just too bad they are Pulse exclusives, so I have to bite the bullet on them, but hopefully I can find some other stuff on the site to take the sting out of the shipping costs.
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This is amazing! I have to figure out a way to get this without wife killing me.
EDIT: Ok I think the Skystriker is out for me.....sad reality is I simply can't afford it. With shipping and and exchange it just too far out of reach. In the last 2-3 years I managed to buy a flagg and a terrordrome and that took all my extra cash from years of saving. This makes me sad since acquiring a skystriker is now my top most wanted vehicle and this is just an amazing example with lots of extras. Looks like quite a bit of difference from the original and the 30th anniversary. I need more pictures.
The snake eyes and storm shadow I might be able to convince the wife to swing for Christmas but if I can't anyone want to pick me up a set of those two? I didn't have either of these figures originally and I have to say I like they went with Snake Eyes commando version which has been my preferred version.
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Same here... space IS an issue too. While I am so glad so it redone, I have the 25th anniversary one and I am afraid the quality is the same.
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Bishop - is the quality not good? For the 30th skystriker I thought quality was ok. Different type of plastic but I didn't think it was that bad.
For the skystriker I just love everything about it. Love the new canopy opening, the payload options, even the freakin' ladder to get into the plane.
As a flagg owner this just screams a must and even more so if they unlock and can get some of the deck crew. I'd like like 12 of those guys but I'd repaint them a couple different colours to really get a great deck crew.
ARRGH! I really wish I had the money....*sob* *sob*
I agree space is an issue but I would probably keep this at my work office.
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Bishop - is the quality not good? For the 30th skystriker I thought quality was ok. Different type of plastic but I didn't think it was that bad.
For the skystriker I just love everything about it. Love the new canopy opening, the payload options, even the freakin' ladder to get into the plane.
As a flagg owner this just screams a must and even more so if they unlock and can get some of the deck crew. I'd like like 12 of those guys but I'd repaint them a couple different colours to really get a great deck crew.
ARRGH! I really wish I had the money....*sob* *sob*
I agree space is an issue but I would probably keep this at my work office.
Hey you have 2 kidneys, and you only need 1 to survive!! ;)
I hear you about space, and price, but this is the problem with Haslabs. Generally they are big, and expensive. Plus, so far, Hasbro has done a good job of making it clear they won't release these items again, ever. So that helps to push the FOMO for backers. If you miss now you won't find it again, except on the secondary market at a higher price. If they were to ever release these Haslabs at retail, even modified, there would be an uproar in the fan community. Plus it would probably make a lot of people, myself included, question why I should spend the crazy high prices they ask for these if they are just going to release a similar item down the road.
I'm actually in the beginning stages of selling off some of my collection for space, and money. I realized I let "collection creep" get out of hand. I have too much stuff, from many lines, and I need to make some tough choices now. It actually feels good because it is also decluttering, and makes it easier to justify getting the Skystriker.
Also just to be clear, this Skystriker is a completely new mold, no reuse parts. They build the Haslabs from the ground up, otherwise it wouldn't really be a good look to say "here is a giant, expensive item, but it is 25% reused parts".
I love all the little details with this Skystriker. The fact they actually reached out to Northrop Grumman to better capture the original F-14 look. All the extra detailing. The nose camera pod, the fact that you can open a flap to attach the fuel hose to "refuel." I absolutely LOVE that they give you 2 sets of fins to make it either toy accurate, or show accurate. How about the fact that now, because they started from scratch, you have separate levers for the wings and landing gear? No more having the wings extended with the wheels down like the original. Unless you want that, but now it can "fly" without the wheels down. Then you have a ton of armaments and effects. The support vehicles, the stand!! Ace and the never before made Wayne Ruthel!! The cloth parachutes. The movable joystick. Never before made Scarlett, Ripcord, and pit crew!!! (Well those are all stretch goals, but still). Ejector seat blast effects!! They really did go about as all out as you can imagine for something like this. I just wish I still had a FLAGG (had one as a kid).
About the only thing I don't like is the decal sheet. I get why they went this route. It allows for customization. If you are a Joe fan you get to make the Skystriker the way you remember. If you are more of a military/airplane fan you can make it closer to a real word F-14. Personally I would have preferred Tampos and paint apps over having to apply stickers that will evenutally discolour and peel.
Either way I am definitely backing this, I mean I have to :)
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Bishop - is the quality not good? For the 30th skystriker I thought quality was ok. Different type of plastic but I didn't think it was that bad.
It's ok, I have the vintage one and the plastic is harder. The new one is made of softer plastic.
Good to hear it's a new mold... ;) I am still on the fence.
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The Skystriker passed 50% of funding goal a couple days ago.
Slow, but steady progress. Hopefully we see the crazy numbers at the end like so many of the other Haslab projects.
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I hear you about space, and price, but this is the problem with Haslabs. Generally they are big, and expensive. Plus, so far, Hasbro has done a good job of making it clear they won't release these items again, ever. So that helps to push the FOMO for backers. If you miss now you won't find it again, except on the secondary market at a higher price. If they were to ever release these Haslabs at retail, even modified, there would be an uproar in the fan community. Plus it would probably make a lot of people, myself included, question why I should spend the crazy high prices they ask for these if they are just going to release a similar item down the road.
Hasbro does reserve the right to sell it differently so I'm not so sure you wouldn't see this again. I wonder if there might be a tie in to the new Top gun movie if it does well (which i think it will)
Okay I think I'm going to sell my MOTU 200x figures and see if I can fund this. Its just to awesome and joe has really been the only childhood toys I ever had. I already sold my Toybiz ML to get me flagg and terrordrome so while i enjoy collecting the 200x figs they gotta go so i can get me that skystriker.
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Well its done. Sold off my MOTU 200x stuff and now I have officially placed my order and backed the skystriker. Also ordered the SS & SE set too. I'm pumped. Can't wait.... <squeal with delight>
It would be amazing if this hit all tier unlocks. A bit expensive otherwise but I don't care. I'm a sucker for sure. HAHA
you guys pull the trigger?
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Well its done. Sold off my MOTU 200x stuff and now I have officially placed my order and backed the skystriker. Also ordered the SS & SE set too. I'm pumped. Can't wait.... <squeal with delight>
It would be amazing if this hit all tier unlocks. A bit expensive otherwise but I don't care. I'm a sucker for sure. HAHA
you guys pull the trigger?
Welcome aboard.
It is definitely expensive, and I'm a little worried at the slow pace now. I am not worried it will fund, but I am worried about how may of the tiers will be hit. In 2 weeks it went from 50% backed to only 56% backed. That is a big slow down. Thankfully there will be a big jump in the final days. So as I said I am not worried about it funding.
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Nice presentation of the cockpit prototype... part1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aILkRdzfRN4&ab_channel=HasbroPulse
And Ace and copilot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BH7faUehDI&ab_channel=HasbroPulse
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Although 230 is kind of pricey, I am going to assume the quality with be much better than the shit Savage produced for the so called collectors club.
I will back this on the weekend after I return from my mini work trip.
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Nice presentation of the cockpit prototype... part1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aILkRdzfRN4&ab_channel=HasbroPulse
And Ace and copilot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BH7faUehDI&ab_channel=HasbroPulse
Thanks for that. 3 Things i notice in the 1st video. 1. I wish the canopy was on rails instead of tabs. maybe that's more accurate but I can see those tabs breaking off over time. 2. I hope you don't have to remove the panels to the guns to use the ladder. Maybe in real life you check weapons after the pilot is seated but would like to not have to do that. 3. when the guys was talking about battle corps leatherneck he mentioned how people love the bazookas they gave back then. If he's talking about the oversized spring loaded weapons, I know of no one who likes those :D
Second video - i know its a prototype but Ruthel looks like hes squinting. Hope that isn't the case but looking at his face he got a bit grimice or smirk on his face and it just reinforces that to me. Hopefully not. To be honest I'm not a fan of Ace's outfit so I'm likely to sacrifce Ruthel body for Ace's head. Looks like my Skystriker still need a co-pilot. If tiers unlock it'll be ripcord.
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Ripcord was always copilot with Ace in my book... Although it's very nice to have a new addition this late in the game. Otherwise, Duke/Snake eyes and Scarlett were piloting together.
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Well well. Hasbro sweetening the deal
https://cdn.shopify.com/videos/c/vp/2306f3e5bbcc428f83b285b4b3dbfcdd/2306f3e5bbcc428f83b285b4b3dbfcdd.HD-1080p-4.8Mbps.mp4
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Well well. Hasbro sweeting the deal
https://cdn.shopify.com/videos/c/vp/2306f3e5bbcc428f83b285b4b3dbfcdd/2306f3e5bbcc428f83b285b4b3dbfcdd.HD-1080p-4.8Mbps.mp4
Damn they are sweating a bit methinks.
That is some sweet, sweet extras being thrown into the mix. I would imagine 5 figures, all carded, at the base price should be enough to get a bunch of people off the fence.
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I think they should have totally revamped the tiers. Move the 2 ground crew to base offering, then scarlet and rip cord tier 2 unlocks, and cobra commander and troops to tier 3.
Junk the crappy cobra stickers or at minimum get better ones because some of them are junk. They could have done much better there.
I want the ground crew for my flagg but i just don't see them hitting those numbers even if they delay it another 45 days.
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Haslab SKYSTRIKER has been funded!
https://hasbropulse.com/products/g-i-joe-skystriker?fbclid=IwAR0-YzY9zmVVVogmVBX6BrPBoeDqdU2ouA4ZbdvGNhz8BFQGWxZqbvrHE8s
Ordered 1 Skystriker. Final damage was $293.78 US.
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Haslab SKYSTRIKER has been funded!
https://hasbropulse.com/products/g-i-joe-skystriker?fbclid=IwAR0-YzY9zmVVVogmVBX6BrPBoeDqdU2ouA4ZbdvGNhz8BFQGWxZqbvrHE8s
Ordered 1 Skystriker. Final damage was $293.78 US.
Yeah it is a kick in the nuts at that price, especially after the exchange rate.
However it has become a pretty crazy project in the last 5 hours.
With 1 hour and 23 minutes to go it is at 14,400. So Scarlet is unlocked, and with the pace it is going right now Ripcord should unlock. The Pit Crew probably won't make it, but man if it does that would make 9 figures, all carded, on top of the Skystriker and all the accessories.
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Beauty! it made up to ripcord. Very excited although this will be a long wait.
Now I'd like some more details about the o-ring line. They said its coming now give me some details.
Clearly we're getting a cobra officer/trooper and cobra commander again. With Ace and Scarlet probably not far behind. That's already a good chunk of the first 2 years of the original line. I would love for them to release the figures (and vehicles!) exactly as they did in the 80's.
Also does anyone actually care about the o-rings being made of silicone? As long as you can take your figures apart the o-rings should last years.
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Beauty! it made up to ripcord. Very excited although this will be a long wait.
Now I'd like some more details about the o-ring line. They said its coming now give me some details.
Clearly we're getting a cobra officer/trooper and cobra commander again. With Ace and Scarlet probably not far behind. That's already a good chunk of the first 2 years of the original line. I would love for them to release the figures (and vehicles!) exactly as they did in the 80's.
Also does anyone actually care about the o-rings being made of silicone? As long as you can take your figures apart the o-rings should last years.
So I stayed up to watch the end, and man talk about a fun ride. I really thought we might make it to "ketchup & mustard" at the end, but it was not to be. Oh well, I know that they will show up on Pulse, most likely around the time of the Skystriker shipping. Hell Hasbro will probably sell more units than what they would have in the Skystriker.
I'm happy that it made it by a nice margin, and we get 2 extra figures through the tiers. I really hope what Emily, the marketing rep for Joe, said is true. She mentioned in one stream/interview that Ripcord's card would be in the traditional Night Force colours/design. So the black background, etc. That is a nice touch.
Overall it was pricey, but I couldn't pass it up.
As for the O-ring figures. I expect there will be more announcements in the new year, probably around the time of New York Toy Fair (Feb).
I like that they went with the food grade silicone for the rings. That will last a lot longer than the rubber bands. I get that you can just open up the figures to replace them, but I really like that I shouldn't have to do that now. Also I am happy that they went with softer plastic for the hands to try and address the thumb breakage of the old figures.
But yeah, bring on the new O-rings, and any vehicles you want to include Hasbro. And yes put them in vintage style boxes.
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To be honest. I'm ripping those boys open.
To me the beauty of the 3 3/4 is that they I can play with them so not keeping these carded. That's what i love about the smaller 3 3/4 size. you get the vehicles as well. I just can't see a huge line of 6" vehicles. If your going to do classic o-ring you need vehicle support.
My only concern is that I won't be able to actually keep up to this line. Just no more money unless i sell my LotR figures but they pretty much can be sold for what I bought them all those years ago...maybe even cheaper. haha.
Anyways how would you guys like to see these released? do you want some cross sell on the back? would you like little pamphlets? How many figures per wave would you release? What years would you focus? what vehicles are a must? Tell me everything you would like to see and at what price point do you see this happening at.
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To be honest. I'm ripping those boys open.
To me the beauty of the 3 3/4 is that they I can play with them so not keeping these carded. That's what i love about the smaller 3 3/4 size. you get the vehicles as well. I just can't see a huge line of 6" vehicles. If your going to do classic o-ring you need vehicle support.
My only concern is that I won't be able to actually keep up to this line. Just no more money unless i sell my LotR figures but they pretty much can be sold for what I bought them all those years ago...maybe even cheaper. haha.
Anyways how would you guys like to see these released? do you want some cross sell on the back? would you like little pamphlets? How many figures per wave would you release? What years would you focus? what vehicles are a must? Tell me everything you would like to see and at what price point do you see this happening at.
Maybe your LOTR figs will see a bit of an uptick once the Amazon(?) series comes out. That should provide a boost in interest for the franchise in general.
Yeah I am torn of opening the figures. I want to keep them carded, but playability!!!! Anyway I'll probably end up doing the whole "slice the bubble" thing to keep the cardbacks looking nice while still playing with the figures. Although I do know that the carded figures on the secondary market will be going for stupid high prices.
Unfortunately O-ring is going to be Pulse exclusvies only. So no retail support. That limits what/how much product will be made, or released. On the flip side the Joe team did mention that they will be able to do some never before made characters in the line. So a classic ARAH O-ring Kwinn please!!!! Also I would love to see some more cartoon characters that never received a figure. Hopefully Hasbro can find that sweet spot that Super7 seems to know, where you have your expected characters/sellers, and throw in the "out of left field" choices no one expects.
Oh, also give me a multi-pack set of Cold Slither!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As for vehicles, I don't expect anything new, except through Haslab, unless the line does extremely well. It just isn't cost effective for Hasbro to make new molds for a Pulse only line. So I expect to see a lot of rehashing of vehicles in the future. So whatever they released in the 25th/ME line that can be ported over to the vintage O-ring line.
Let's just hope they get that this new O-ring line is similar to the Masters Of The Universe: Origins line for fans. Basically a slightly modernized release of the classic toys. So sorry, but I don't want the updated Fang, Skyhawk, Firebat, etc. with the extra parts, updated designs. I want the classic molds to go with the new classic figures. Update the plastics, or if necessary the designs to prevent breakage. However keep them looking like the originals on the outside as much as possible.
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Oh well, I missed that 😥 Do you know if I can still order this Skystriker?
I saw some informations saying US only. Do you guys had problems ordering from Canada?
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Devastated that o-rings wouldn't have retail support, somehow i missed that................. probably saved my marriage though. HAHA!
That instantly almost makes them not affordable if I have to pay in US funds, and ship from the US. I was hoping for characters at maybe $12-15 CDN range.
Hopefully I would like to see some troop builder packs including green shirts but from all branches (could even do a big 8 figure flagg deck crew set using that unlocked tier which I think is a given considering since the tooling will already exist). I can live with new vehicles through haslabs but my support would be few and far between so I would want to know what they were doing for the whole year ahead of time as I could only back 1 or 2 depending on costs.
I'd also love to see some dress uniforms figures...obviously that limits the action but I always liked the dress marine gung-ho. He just didn't work because he was the only one.
As I type this I guess i really just want a do-over of the vintage line. I guess a can say I'm not a collector, I'm a person who enjoys playing with toys and I want my sons to have that same access to toys having them just sit there is counter to their purpose. Yep projecting onto my kids, but I won't apologize for that.
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Oh well, I missed that 😥 Do you know if I can still order this Skystriker?
I saw some informations saying US only. Do you guys had problems ordering from Canada?
Martin! good to see you. No problem ordering. It specifically states Canada is included in the details
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So I saw the update from HasbroPulse about the next o-rings. Awesome choices but obviously this is what they had planned anyways before they had to add the cobra group to the skystriker set.
I like the cobra trooper and officer. Excellent although i wish this came in a 3 or 4 pack. Need more troopers then officers. I'll take 2 packs please. hopefully price isn't crazy.
Between that and the cobra commander we're getting with the skystriker set all we need is an updated cobra missle command centre which would be a great haslab. But it should be made of plastic (including the background) and give it a bit of an update.
The cobra commander and duke set is cool. I'll probably pass on that though (maybe). I don't really have the same connection with the cartoon as opposed to the comics.
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So I saw the update from HasbroPulse about the next o-rings. Awesome choices but obviously this is what they had planned anyways before they had to add the cobra group to the skystriker set..
Do you have a link?
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So I saw the update from HasbroPulse about the next o-rings. Awesome choices but obviously this is what they had planned anyways before they had to add the cobra group to the skystriker set.
I like the cobra trooper and officer. Excellent although i wish this came in a 3 or 4 pack. Need more troopers then officers. I'll take 2 packs please. hopefully price isn't crazy.
Between that and the cobra commander we're getting with the skystriker set all we need is an updated cobra missle command centre which would be a great haslab. But it should be made of plastic (including the background) and give it a bit of an update.
The cobra commander and duke set is cool. I'll probably pass on that though (maybe). I don't really have the same connection with the cartoon as opposed to the comics.
You know they re-did the Missile Command as a SDCC exclusive in 2017 right? It was basically the same as the original, with better quality pieces (stronger than the original cardboard). As well as three 3.75" figures (25th style, not O-ring).
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So I saw the update from HasbroPulse about the next o-rings. Awesome choices but obviously this is what they had planned anyways before they had to add the cobra group to the skystriker set..
Do you have a link?
https://youtu.be/ySgZfE6f12M. Somwehere around the 19 minute mark
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So I saw the update from HasbroPulse about the next o-rings. Awesome choices but obviously this is what they had planned anyways before they had to add the cobra group to the skystriker set.
I like the cobra trooper and officer. Excellent although i wish this came in a 3 or 4 pack. Need more troopers then officers. I'll take 2 packs please. hopefully price isn't crazy.
Between that and the cobra commander we're getting with the skystriker set all we need is an updated cobra missle command centre which would be a great haslab. But it should be made of plastic (including the background) and give it a bit of an update.
The cobra commander and duke set is cool. I'll probably pass on that though (maybe). I don't really have the same connection with the cartoon as opposed to the comics.
You know they re-did the Missile Command as a SDCC exclusive in 2017 right? It was basically the same as the original, with better quality pieces (stronger than the original cardboard). As well as three 3.75" figures (25th style, not O-ring).
I'm aware of the 2017 release but that's not quite what I mean. I want the background to be playable, Have some actual depth to the set. I want to be able to place a figure in the tunnel. Have an actual ladder going down. It should come with those orange vehicles. An actual 3d missile. A working over head led light etc. I'd like to swap the missile and put a rattler in there to make a cool hanger. That kind of update.
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So I saw the update from HasbroPulse about the next o-rings. Awesome choices but obviously this is what they had planned anyways before they had to add the cobra group to the skystriker set.
I like the cobra trooper and officer. Excellent although i wish this came in a 3 or 4 pack. Need more troopers then officers. I'll take 2 packs please. hopefully price isn't crazy.
Between that and the cobra commander we're getting with the skystriker set all we need is an updated cobra missle command centre which would be a great haslab. But it should be made of plastic (including the background) and give it a bit of an update.
The cobra commander and duke set is cool. I'll probably pass on that though (maybe). I don't really have the same connection with the cartoon as opposed to the comics.
You know they re-did the Missile Command as a SDCC exclusive in 2017 right? It was basically the same as the original, with better quality pieces (stronger than the original cardboard). As well as three 3.75" figures (25th style, not O-ring).
I'm aware of the 2017 release but that's not quite what I mean. I want the background to be playable, Have some actual depth to the set. I want to be able to place a figure in the tunnel. Have an actual ladder going down. It should come with those orange vehicles. An actual 3d missile. A working over head led light etc. I'd like to swap the missile and put a rattler in there to make a cool hanger. That kind of update.
That would be great, but unfortunately in today's market I would hate to see what the asking price for that would be.
Frankly for the short term, I would be happy if Hasbro broke out the play sets again (LAW, Surveillance Port, etc.) in the classic ARAH packaging to go with the new O-ring line. Then hopefully, if they did well, Hasbro might consider taking a risk again.
Also now that they have Haslab, I don't see Hasbro taking a risk on that kind of playset (Missile Command) anymore. So if there is a chance it would probably have to be through Haslab so Hasbro doesn't have to risk a loss, and can overcharge the buyers.
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yeah that's what i mean about getting an updated missile command - through HasLab. It would be real tempting at $300 range.
I 100% agree with you on the smaller playsets. I wonder what they would price at,$50-75 range? I'd maybe get 1 for Christmas.
What i would really love for them to do is repo parts for vehicles. Maybe that would kill the investment but I'm missing some pieces for my flagg (and 98% of all my vehicles) and I just refuse to pay $50-100 for 1 small part. That's ludicrous.
That and I would love to know what they're going to release for the whole year so I can actually plan for what I want to buy.
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https://youtu.be/ySgZfE6f12M. Somwehere around the 19 minute mark
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yeah that's what i mean about getting an updated missile command - through HasLab. It would be real tempting at $300 range.
I 100% agree with you on the smaller playsets. I wonder what they would price at,$50-75 range? I'd maybe get 1 for Christmas.
What i would really love for them to do is repo parts for vehicles. Maybe that would kill the investment but I'm missing some pieces for my flagg (and 98% of all my vehicles) and I just refuse to pay $50-100 for 1 small part. That's ludicrous.
That and I would love to know what they're going to release for the whole year so I can actually plan for what I want to buy.
Yeah parts are a big market now, as more and more vehicles/figures degrade and collectors need to replace them.
I didn't realize that the original ARAH figs are now having problems with their elbows and the rivets used to join them. Yes the O-rings and thumbs are problems we all know about, but apparently in the last few years, more and more original figures are starting to have breakage, rust, etc. around the rivets and elbows.
I guess when you hit 40 years, it is to be expected that more problems would occur. It is the same thing with Masters Of The Universe figures. The originals are more and more breaking around the joints, especially the feet area. That and the interior joints are weakening to the point where feet and legs can no longer support the figures standing.
So I am glad for the new Masters of the Universe Origins line, and now the new O-ring from Hasbro. It gives me a chance to get some of the original looks, but with updates, to replace older versions that may not be salvageable in the next decade.
As for Haslab, never say never, but if the Skystriker was $230US, I imagine something like the Missile Command would be similar in price, but who knows anymore with inflation. Honestly I would love Hasbro to take the risk and offer one of the classic bases instead, even though they would easily be over $400US. However I could find the funds for a new headquarters, Terrordrome, or......USS FLAGG!!!! The Flagg I can't see being done for anything under $800 though.
However I think Hasbro will just settle on vehicles for Joe right now. Maybe a Classified scale HISS, or another fairly big 3.75" vehicle (I would love a Night Raven).
At retail we will see a lot of re-release of existing molds for vehicles. I mean we already had the HISS, AWE Striker and, unbelievably, an updated Fang. So hopefully the Vamp, Stinger and others come along again, in classic packaging. However if Hasbro is asking $40US for 2 figures, I hate to think what they'll ask for the vehicles.
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Yeah parts are a big market now, as more and more vehicles/figures degrade and collectors need to replace them.
I didn't realize that the original ARAH figs are now having problems with their elbows and the rivets used to join them. Yes the O-rings and thumbs are problems we all know about, but apparently in the last few years, more and more original figures are starting to have breakage, rust, etc. around the rivets and elbows.
I guess when you hit 40 years, it is to be expected that more problems would occur. It is the same thing with Masters Of The Universe figures. The originals are more and more breaking around the joints, especially the feet area. That and the interior joints are weakening to the point where feet and legs can no longer support the figures standing.
So I am glad for the new Masters of the Universe Origins line, and now the new O-ring from Hasbro. It gives me a chance to get some of the original looks, but with updates, to replace older versions that may not be salvageable in the next decade.
As for Haslab, never say never, but if the Skystriker was $230US, I imagine something like the Missile Command would be similar in price, but who knows anymore with inflation. Honestly I would love Hasbro to take the risk and offer one of the classic bases instead, even though they would easily be over $400US. However I could find the funds for a new headquarters, Terrordrome, or......USS FLAGG!!!! The Flagg I can't see being done for anything under $800 though.
However I think Hasbro will just settle on vehicles for Joe right now. Maybe a Classified scale HISS, or another fairly big 3.75" vehicle (I would love a Night Raven).
At retail we will see a lot of re-release of existing molds for vehicles. I mean we already had the HISS, AWE Striker and, unbelievably, an updated Fang. So hopefully the Vamp, Stinger and others come along again, in classic packaging. However if Hasbro is asking $40US for 2 figures, I hate to think what they'll ask for the vehicles.
Yeah i don't see a big play for the big bases. I already have those (minus missle command and defiant space complex) and wouldn't have the space to get a second version. I suspect bases don't sell as well as I would like to believe. I think the o-ring line has to prove itself in sales before they go really big. I'm guessing we will see vehicles like you said but I would actually prefer they try some other first. I feel in last 20 years there has been enough awe strikers, vamps, and Hiss. Let's move on to something else..night raven, mauler (without radio control but still with rubber treads), wolverine, whale, stun.
Pricing will be everything for me.
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Larger playsets are indeed difficult in this market. I'd love to see a radio controlled Crossfire and Rumbler exclusive... ;)
https://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/87/crossfire/
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nice little update on the last Hasbro Pulse viewing. Looking good. Can't wait for this bad boy. Will probably sit in my office at work :)
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All the carded figures that come with the Haslab GI Joe Skystriker!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYJn18xVsAY8EJ4?format=jpg&name=small)
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looks good. thanks for posting Martin. I can't help but feel only Ripcord card feels like original art. The others look a little too... simple. Minor quibble since I'm going to open them all up. Hope they still ship in January.
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Seriously, I know it was expensive, and people out there were quite vocal in complaining about how this should have been a retail release, but.....
You can't tell me that with 7 carded figures, all the accessories and support vehicles, plus the Skystriker and multiple sticker sheets, that Hasbro (specifically the Joe team) didn't try their hardest to put as much value as possible into the high price.
It is a shame that we couldn't get the Ketchup & Mustard deck crew as well, but still what a great looking set. I can't wait for it to arrive.
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yeah too bad for the deck crew. Hopefully we get another chance at them at some point since the tooling is already being reused. I dream of a 5-pack online pack with the green, purple, blue, red, yellow. If they want to make it a 7 pack to add the brown and white I'm ok with that too. I'd go for 2 packs of either.
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Got an email from hasbro pulse giving me till Jan 12 to confirm my address for the sky striker. Then they should be shipping. Hopefully I get mine by end of January / beginning of February. Christmas will come twice !
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Yep great news.
I got my Haslab Victory Saber 10 days after the last day to update my address. Galactus was almost a month. So it is kind of a crap shoot when it will arrive, but hopefully no more than a month.
Can't wait!!!
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getting closer...squeeeeeeell!
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getting closer...squeeeeeeell!
And one more nice touch.
The cardboard packing holding the figures and support vehicles has printing on it, so when you open it up it makes a runway for the Skystriker!!!!!
Love these little touches. Great work Joe Team.
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getting closer...squeeeeeeell!
And one more nice touch.
The cardboard packing holding the figures and support vehicles has printing on it, so when you open it up it makes a runway for the Skystriker!!!!!
Love these little touches. Great work Joe Team.
Where did you see this? I love that idea although mine will be set up either at work in my office or packaged away till Christmas each year when I break out the Flagg.
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getting closer...squeeeeeeell!
And one more nice touch.
The cardboard packing holding the figures and support vehicles has printing on it, so when you open it up it makes a runway for the Skystriker!!!!!
Love these little touches. Great work Joe Team.
Where did you see this? I love that idea although mine will be set up either at work in my office or packaged away till Christmas each year when I break out the Flagg.
I believe it was on Youtube from the Full Force channel. Not 100% sure. Though there are pictures out there of some unboxing of the Skystriker, and you can see the sides of the boxes holding the figures and support vehicles. If you look you'll see there is grey with a white line down the middle like a roadway. I also saw a picture somewhere of it unfolded and it has the number 83 on one end as well as grass at the sides.
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Watched the hasbropulse video on the skystriker unboxing. It looks excellent. Can't wait. Wish I had the money for 2.
They mentioned in the video future release of a joe troop builder pack. I'm a little confused if this is classified or o-ring? it was the comment from Lenny about the troops in the pack be able to handle land and sky and Emily saying what a nice tie in to the skystriker. Its only a good tie in if its o-ring. But then she said the second classified anouncement for today... so then I think its classified.
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Watched the hasbropulse video on the skystriker unboxing. It looks excellent. Can't wait. Wish I had the money for 2.
They mentioned in the video future release of a joe troop builder pack. I'm a little confused if this is classified or o-ring? it was the comment from Lenny about the troops in the pack be able to handle land and sky and Emily saying what a nice tie in to the skystriker. Its only a good tie in if its o-ring. But then she said the second classified anouncement for today... so then I think its classified.
They were both Classified reveals.
The Green Shirt Troop Builder pack is going to be "Land & Sky" related, and Lenny was joking about the "Sky" part being a tie-in to the "Sky"striker. The second reveal was Agent Helix. Both were just "name" reveals, so no pictures, release dates, or other information.
I kind of hope that the "Sky" part Lenny was talking about means we are finally getting a Jet Pack in the Classified line.
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WOO-HOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My Skystriker just arrived!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can't wait to crack it open, but I have to wait until at least tonight, if not tomorrow. Oh the agony of the wait.
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Great! I passed on this one, but I look forward to see detailed of the figures online. It's good to see all this good stuff released!
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Got mine yesterday afternoon. Just offering my first impressions on the skystriker itself. I haven't had time to look at the figures.
The nitpicks:
1. a little loose on the front landing gear closing when retracted up, likewise when the wheels are down it doesn't always lock the wheels firmly, so all of a sudden the front landing gear collapses.
2. The bottom of the wings design is very poor looking. That whole contraption for where the wing attached would have been more visually appealing had it been located inside the main body, From the top the plane looks amazing, from the bottom I'm like "meh". Disappointing.
3 The Gijoe stamp. I don't know if I'm the only one, but I dislike having the joe logo on the vehilcles. It didn't bother me as a kid but as an adult I find it weird for a top secret military force to put markings to identify their vehicles. I would have preferred they leave that as a sticker to put on or off.
4. The blueprints. They use the 83 skystiker for the illustration so it does make some sticker placement a little weird (e.g aroudnt he cannons etc.) Also the tow vehicles illustration is for the flagg version.
5. The tow vehicle does not have a seat and is slightly undersized. Would have rather had a seat over an engine cover since I will probably keep the weapon carrier on all the time, making the engine cover pretty much useless.
6. The tail hook. A minor point here, I'm not sure how much this needs to come down. Mine hardly moves and I'm afraid to pull on it any more for fear of snapping it.
7. stickers - pass on the cobra stickers. Waste of tier there. I would have also liked to have other actual pilots names (e.g Slipstream, Dogfight etc) as an option.
8. Its missing its ground crew. I'll chat more about that when i have time to share my thoughts on the figures.
9. I only can afford 1. :(
The good
1. It's an F14. Beautiful!
2. love the two seater. I haven't had the opportunity to get an origianal 83 so I can't compare. I only have the 2011(?) XP21F. Detail on the seats is excellent
3. love the cockpit and canopy. I like how the canopy lifts away when open and tucks away when closed, and that the front part can be removed seperately. Control stick looks nice. Hopefully it won't snap too quickly. I also love that we get 2 canopies, but i thought one was supposed to be tinted and the other clear? I got two tinted- which I actually prefer so that's a positive.
4. The stand is awesome I love it so that i can position this exactly the way I want.
5. I love the tail hook and landing gear lever. this will be put to use the next time I have my flagg set up.
6. I love that the wing sweep and landing gear are separate controls. Its an obvious like, so not really much more to say about that.
7. Its new plastic. I like that the plastic isn't 40 years old and fragile (I hope). I don't feel scared to play with this thing.
8. Let's talk about the packaging. It looks beautiful. They did a good job on keeping everything pristine, Sad that I won't find these type of boxes in my local toys r us. :(
I really love the runway part. Its a relatively easy play feature. Its good thinking inside the box - bwhahaha! (sorry dad humour)
9.removable panels. its excellent and adds to the potential story telling of prepping the skystriker, but its missing a ground crew to finish that story. Come on hasbro give me a 5 pack of the mechanics and deck crew.
I have to see if the vintage figures can go in there or not.
I also have the toughest decision to make. Which logos to put on the vertical stabilizer fins...classic Skystriker, or one of the Tomcats ones which i really like, or should I go custom stickers and get the Jolly Roger?....seriously I can't decide. Definitely want my favourite ones on the black fins.
What are your thoughts?
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Thanks for sharing, please share more once you get to the figures.
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@B it's really fun to read your review 👍
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Figure 1st impressions (I haven't gotten them all out yet so I'm only talking about the ones I have opened)
1. Outer packaging. Great overall protection of the cards in the box. Nice sheet of vellum to separate the cards from any scuffing is good thinking. A lot of attention and money was spent on ensuring your stuff arrived safely. I think they did miss an opportunity to include a small promotional pamphlet or poster of their products. Or even dio photography shots to spark the imagination. Would have been great to see other 3 3/4" items, (maybe slip in a reveal)
2. Card backs. The thicker cardboard is very nice. The artwork is pretty good overall, although I'm bothered by the flair on cobra commanders helmet. The adhesive on the bubble was very inconsistent. On one card I almost peeled the bubble off without lifting any ink. On others, there was some alternating sections that had good adhesion to almost no adhesion. I did have one card that was properly sealed (that is until I opened it). If your a MOC collector be warned your bubbles may just fall off after a couple of years.
On the backside I like the one language file card. That missing portrait space for the cross sell always catches my eye however, because I know the crew portrait should be there.
3. Cobra commander - excellent figure, very close to the original I think. I hope to compare them later this weekend. Colour is a little flat. I honestly don't really care about the mickey mouse logo. I don't see myself using a logo that doesn't fit with the rest of my figures. I want the figures that I played with. Those figures have meaning although I always wished the OG commander has a slightly darker cobra blue as well. (Maybe I have to get the cartoon version that came with Duke.)
4. Cobra Trooper - looks very good and I think is supposed to be based on the cartoon? I do find the general troopers have almost no expression in their eyes. No soul. Its probably perfect for a cannon fodder trooper. He's just one of many. I wonder if this was done purposely? I'm not sure if I wish that the designers had somehow worked a little more expression in the eyes, or whether I think its perfect just the way it is. His hand almost were completely closed. The distance between his thumb and fingers was so thin. Hopefully the new plastic they use allows for the flex. Simple yet genuine figure.
5. Ramp Rat - pretty good figure although the arms bother me. It looks like he's wearing a jogging suit under his vest. His weapon choice is not my favourite and i would have preferred he come with some sort of tool and a normal gun. The light traffic wands are simple but neat accessory. Probably use my 25th technoviper pylons with this.
6. Fail safe - One of the figures I was really looking forward to just fell short in the execution for me. The soft helmet was kind of warped, which I don't like, but was fine once I put on his head. I am glad his face had a little more expression then what I had seen in pictures online. When I was checking the joints I thought I had a stiff shoulder so I heated it up with a hairdryer but actually it was paint that had dried between his arm and torso so as I pulled his arm to gently rotate his shoulder the paint cracked leaving a mark on both his arm and his side. I guess the paint had not been completely dry before he got assembled? I also have to take this figure apart and look at his head because right where his neck meets his torso I have a small thin gap because his neck doesn't extend far enough into the torso. It looks like he had his throat slit. I assume mine just had these defects and its not that common.
I do like that he looks more like a pilot. I prefer his outfit over Ace's all day long. It would have been nice for Ace and Failsafe to have similar outfits because I dislike that Ace is wearing a pressure suit and Failsafe is wearing a sort of traditional pilots suit. Simple firearm is a nice touch, although I'm not sure where to store it. I think I'm going to make him the default pilot because this Tomcat is a Navy F14 and he's a Navy Pilot, while Ace is an USAF pilot. If I ever change the fins to the grey then I'll make Ace the pilot.
7. Scarlett - this is a decent figure except for two things: the weapon - Its missing its handle making it pretty much useless...that or I don't know how its supposed to work. I never had the original so i have nothing to compare to. i don't actually care for the test pressure suit design itself. Its fine looking but I just would have preferred a more traditional suit. I do like that her and Ace look like a team. hmmm after those 2 nitpicks the only thing I didn't have a problem with is the head so can I really say its a decent figure. HAHA, I don't know, its fine I guess but it could have been better.
One thing I noticed is that none of the figures can move their heads up or down. No ball joint heads so far. That is a shame. I'm hoping Ripcord will not have this problem since I know Ace will not have that head movement.
I'll edit this message when I get to Ace and Ripcord.
EDIT:
8. Ace - this is an excellent figure in so far as he seems pretty faithful to the original when I look online, but as I mentioned earlier I don't have an original to compare too so I'm sure there are some differences. I only wish they had found a way to give him a swivel head so you can pose him looking whichever way in the canopy. I also would have loved if he had come with Failsafe's body in any of the v2,v3 or v4 colour patterns. Including a weapon is great. I honestly don't know what else to talk about and that seems a bit sad because I feel he should be the star figure since he is the pilot. Maybe its better that way as the star really is the skystriker and Ace is the accessory...Not sure if I agree with myself. Regardless, solid figure!
9 Ripcord - I really like this figure overall. The black outfit with the nightforce logo on the arm is quite nice. I have to say though that I much prefer the original camo pattern over the nightforce colours, maybe its because the black doesn't have the gloss that I've used too, or maybe the camo pattern is just a little more eye catching. I'm still not sure if he was the right choice to be included with the skystriker. You would never have halo jumper eject from a skystriker for a mission. Don't get me wrong I do love the figure but I wonder if he would have been better served in another vehicle. (Haslab we could use a C-130).
The green parachute pack is also nice. Its definitely a softer plastic, my one issue is the mask does not plug into the parachute pack very well, I can't get that hose to stick in. Maybe its just me though. His gun is excellent but would have been great if he had a place to store it or a strap so it could be slung over the shoulder (normally i hate straps but in this case it makes sense). I like that the weapons are all black. The helmet is soft plastic too, and I think that is a bit of a miss. Strapping the soft plastic mask to the soft plastic helmet is a bit of a challenge to my non-dexterous fingers and getting it to sit right is a bit annoying. As i mentioned earlier I have a hard time attaching the mask to his pack. Also, the helmet is a bit too loose on his head and can come off very easily. Finally the biggest miss I have is that he should have came with another parachute, with the nightforce logo on it that could attach to his parachute pack. That would have been awesome! Overall I'm very pleased to add Ripcord.
So final thoughts: I think I complain too much and after re-reading through my thoughts I feel like, maybe, I come across negatively. This is farthest from the truth. I feel this was a good project overall. Yes, there are a few quality issues, and while I would have loved a few changes here and there, I'm definitely happy with what I have received and do not regret backing this. I've always wanted a skystriker and had hoped one day to actually get an original, but when this came up I knew I had to find a way to back it (and I did by selling off all my 200x MOTU figures.) This thing fixes some major play issues I have heard people have about the original. I have waited 40 years to get a skystriker and I need to wait another 20 years before I will actually have space to set it up on my flagg (7 kids means no empty rooms for a long time) Even my wife, who begrudges the space my toys take, admitted it was pretty cool looking. This was the piece that got me excited for the first time since the 25th anniversary line. The 3 3/4 - 4" scale will always be my gijoe. I've been flying my skystriker through the house every day so far and having a blast, and that's the most important thing for me.
Anyways, everyone has their opinion and maybe yours is different. I'd love to hear it. Thanks for listening.
Have fun everyone! (Back to my usual lurking)
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Once again, thanks for sharing. Sucks about the bubble adhesive. I look forward to your views on the the last two figures.
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Well it seems I lucked out.
Finally got around to fiddling with the Skystriker, and much like B it was a fun experience.
I was a bit worried after reading about a bunch of problems online. Things like CC with two right arms, the wings not snapping in properly and leaving a gap, Scarlett missing her handle on the crossbow, etc. Things that, once again, shouldn't be happening with such an expensive piece. So far, outside of Scarlett's crossbow, they seem to be the usual "ones & twos" problems that come with mass manufacturing.
My only real problem is with Failsafe. He was not properly put on the card so he was kind of rubbing against the plastic, and his face looks off. I don't know if that is from the poor placement, or just a bad design.
Otherwise everything seems to be in great shape, and I love the Skystriker. I especially love the option of putting the black tail fins on to match the box/early cartoon. I like all the little details they added, especially the ladder attachment to allow for easier access. The flight stand is a great touch and makes displaying the Skystriker so much easier that I'm sure it will be on display for a while compared to some other jets that just sit on the shelf.
Anyway, those are my early impressions. Great job overall, with only some minor nitpicks on my part (so far).
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anyone got their flagg setup and have the new skystriker and willing to take a risk? I'd like to test whether the flagg arrestor cable will actually pull the landing gear down once the arrestor hook snags it? I'm not sure if you want to risk that on old plastic or not. If no one has it setup or willing to test I guess I can try it out next Dec.
I also did add my last comments on the 2 missing figures in my previous message earlier in this thread for those who are interested.
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anyone got their flagg setup and have the new skystriker and willing to take a risk? I'd like to test whether the flagg arrestor cable will actually pull the landing gear down once the arrestor hook snags it? I'm not sure if you want to risk that on old plastic or not. If no one has it setup or willing to test I guess I can try it out next Dec.
I also did add my last comments on the 2 missing figures in my previous message earlier in this thread for those who are interested.
Yeah it is such a shame that we are getting to that point in time where the original figures and vehicles are starting to degrade to the point of fragility. It means there are some truly amazing figures, vehicles and playsets that are going to either be lost to time, or end up as noting more than display pieces under glass because the risk of damage is too high.
I'm hoping since they pushed the Joe livestream event back to March 8th that we might get a tease for the next Joe Haslab at that time.
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anyone got their flagg setup and have the new skystriker and willing to take a risk? I'd like to test whether the flagg arrestor cable will actually pull the landing gear down once the arrestor hook snags it? I'm not sure if you want to risk that on old plastic or not. If no one has it setup or willing to test I guess I can try it out next Dec.
I also did add my last comments on the 2 missing figures in my previous message earlier in this thread for those who are interested.
Yeah it is such a shame that we are getting to that point in time where the original figures and vehicles are starting to degrade to the point of fragility. It means there are some truly amazing figures, vehicles and playsets that are going to either be lost to time, or end up as noting more than display pieces under glass because the risk of damage is too high.
I'm hoping since they pushed the Joe livestream event back to March 8th that we might get a tease for the next Joe Haslab at that time.
Maybe. I don't think we'll forever lose it per say because of fragility. With 3d printing and resin casting I could see hobbyists go for replacements for these old things. I just look at the work of Black Major or Red Laser customs on figures to know that someone somewhere will probably be willing to give it a shot for a large scale playset. Maybe it's not a business opportunity but a labour of love opportunity. I think we (those of us growing up with gijoe) only really will lose it once we're gone. Will anyone care? I knowpersonally my kids have rarely played with very few toys once video games were allowed. I was much the same way as a kid.
Anyways. I hope to go over a more thorough review of my skystriker as I've been playing with it now for a couple of weeks. Wife wants it out of the bedroom. (BOO!)
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anyone got their flagg setup and have the new skystriker and willing to take a risk? I'd like to test whether the flagg arrestor cable will actually pull the landing gear down once the arrestor hook snags it? I'm not sure if you want to risk that on old plastic or not. If no one has it setup or willing to test I guess I can try it out next Dec.
I also did add my last comments on the 2 missing figures in my previous message earlier in this thread for those who are interested.
Yeah it is such a shame that we are getting to that point in time where the original figures and vehicles are starting to degrade to the point of fragility. It means there are some truly amazing figures, vehicles and playsets that are going to either be lost to time, or end up as noting more than display pieces under glass because the risk of damage is too high.
I'm hoping since they pushed the Joe livestream event back to March 8th that we might get a tease for the next Joe Haslab at that time.
Maybe. I don't think we'll forever lose it per say because of fragility. With 3d printing and resin casting I could see hobbyists go for replacements for these old things. I just look at the work of Black Major or Red Laser customs on figures to know that someone somewhere will probably be willing to give it a shot for a large scale playset. Maybe it's not a business opportunity but a labour of love opportunity. I think we (those of us growing up with gijoe) only really will lose it once we're gone. Will anyone care? I knowpersonally my kids have rarely played with very few toys once video games were allowed. I was much the same way as a kid.
Anyways. I hope to go over a more thorough review of my skystriker as I've been playing with it now for a couple of weeks. Wife wants it out of the bedroom. (BOO!)
I do agree that 3D printing is a godsend, and a passable alternative for small scale stuff. However the really big stuff might be another issue. The Flagg, Defiant, Terrordrome, Headquarters, General, etc. all have a lot of parts (big and small) and complexity that can't be easily replicated.
Now of course that can change, and 3D printing, or resin printing, should only get cheaper and more accessible with time. However it is still going to be a big task for the average collector. I would imagine there are only ones & twos of collectors out there with the means and motivation to get that kind of project done.
The good thing for us is that since the 25th/ME era there has been a lot of vehicles reissued/redone so we have a long list of vehicles that are newer and should last through most of our lifetimes. However there is also a long list of vehicles that have never been reissued/redone and probably won't ever be redone due to lack of interest. I mean there are a lot of vehicles from 89-93 that I don't see anyone caring enough to maintain.
Hopefully Joe can get another boost in the next few years, much like TF and Star Wars, which would mean more product and all my speculation will be pointless.