JoeCanuck
General Section => General Joe Talk => Topic started by: B on January 21, 2022, 09:34:17 AM
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Oh yeah! Just got an email from Hasbro pulse indicating its ready to ship earlier then expected.
Hot dog! my first 3 3/4 o-ring figures in like 15 years I think.
Very excited.
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Congrats.
I slept on this set and missed out. My only hope now is for a restock.
I'll definitely not make that mistake again with the new reveals (CC/Duke, Cobra Officer/Trooper).
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Email indicating its shipped so hopefully I'll get it this week.
Saw a review of them this morning
https://youtu.be/LYhpCnVvPYk
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Email indicating its shipped so hopefully I'll get it this week.
Saw a review of them this morning
https://youtu.be/LYhpCnVvPYk
Can I ask what you paid, all in, for them?
They are back on HasbroPulse, but I had to balk when I tried to go through checkout and it was already $62US w/shipping, but before taxes (even though there shouldn't be if it is under $200CDN). Hard to swallow nearly $40CDN a figure. I'll probably try and add on some other stuff to make it a bit more palatable, but I don't know yet.
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Oh they're expensive! I originally added it with the skystriker preorder. If they're all going to be this expensive I will not be getting very many. Definitely getting the cobra trooper and officer (maybe 2) and then very selective about which 3 3/4 figures I don't have. I don't see a need to get a joe or cobra I already have in vintage line.
Normally I would have said no way I'm paying over $15 for a figure however, I made an exception here as I don't have version 1 of either of those figures, and honestly I'd be looking at $100CDN per figure locally. More importantly, now I get some new toys I won't be afraid to play with as they should be able to withstand some play much better then the vintage ones at 35 years old.
I'll have to wait till later today to get you what I paid as the credit card bill was sent to my wife email and I can't remember her password. She'll forward it to me later. Come back to this post later for an edit.
EDIT $63.31 CDN is what i got charged including shipping
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out for delivery today.
It was supposed to be delivered yesterday but was delayed I'm sure due to the blizzard we just had on monday. Hopefully when i get home from work I will have them.
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So first impressions.
1. Card back sucks. very thin card and mine arrived with a little curl. Not a big deal as I ripped these bad boys opens. File card is useless but then again what hasn't been said about those two.
I also can't figure out why they need the outer box. if you could open it somehow to see the carded figures maybe that would work but i suspect anyone who isn't opening the figures will probably remove the carded figures.Bit of a waste of money.
My 2 carded figures came in the decorative box which was in a hasbro box which was in a shipping box with airpillows. Thats a lot of money in packaging.
2. Overall appearances are excellent. Nitpicks are the black printing on the back of the legs which is hard to see on SE, but SS its obvious. These were made in Vietnam which was stamped on the butt which is interesting change. I like the painted rivets but I suspect that won't last long. My knee joints were stiff, enough that I want to get my wife hair dryer to warm them up. Arms were fine. No issues with the hands.
3. weapons - pretty good but if the weapons are the same on the original SS i can understand why the bow string broke as well the nunchuks. Thin plastic.
I was actually worried I was going to break the bow just getting peged on the backpack.
Its here I wish they would add a paint app to the weapons so they aren't just 1 single color. I'm fine with it but feel if they could have done that it would be one of those nice update touches. SS with painted swords instead of solid black would be much more appealing.
I like the inclusion of the extra easily lost weapon. I already know at some point I'm going to lose one of them but then at least I have a spare.
4. Overall very impressed. I didn't have either of these originals. Most important to me is they are playable toys. I expect to work their joints in in no time!!
Anyone else who got this have any thoughts and opinions?
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So I've heard a lot of complaints on YouTube about the cardbacks and I fully understand and agree with the comments, but there might be another reason why the cardbacks are so flimsy.
supply is short, demand is high. Nothing new.
The regular material might actually be unavailable at the time needed.
As most people are aware, many raw materials around the world are in short supply and paper and paper products are some of those items.
I work in the print industry and I can tell you that right now there are major delays in getting regular stock items.
Lead times have gone from 3-4X the usual turn around locally and if you order from overseas costs have gone through the roof (e.g. ordering a container used to cost about $5,000US and can now range into the $20,000-$35,000+ for same container, at least in my experience) and oversea lead times can add months to a projects completions. (e.g. Look at the number of ships out west delayed trying to get into harbours and offloaded)
There are also capacity demands and market limit restrictions, that are happening at the manufacturers (mills).
More importantly a massive increase in online sales and shipping the last couple years which have exceeded the industry ability to produce enough packaging material. (side note: many companies are making the transition to new packaging lines as they have seen traditional printed paper usage decline.)
As such printers have had to find alternatives to their regular products including stocks that might be lesser quality but are at least readily available.
Printers have seen price increases ranging from 5-8% and sometimes more which then costs about the same as the old stocks pre-pandemic.
If you have MRSP for a toy you need to make sure everything fits into that budget and when it can't you have a couple of choices: you cheapen the product in some way, or you delay your product, or you raise prices.
All in all it just show how intertwined the economy is. Anyways I'm sure there are other reasons but wanted to bring my perspective. I totally admit I could be completely wrong :D but this makes sense to me.
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well... broke one of my storm shadow nunchuck when seeing if it would fit nicely in the his backpack opening. Good thing they have two.
D'OH!
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Great, flimsy accessories as well? Not good for $20US figures.
As for the card backs, it is the same across a lot of Hasbro lines. I think it has more to do with cost cutting than actual supply and demand. Hasbro just cheaped out to save a penny, or less per figure. Which of course works out to a lot more than that over the course of thousands of figures. Not to mention incrementally saving on shipping weight.
They don't do it with their 6" lines, but it is rampant on the smaller scale figures.
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Watching the live stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX8U26ul8cM
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Watching the live stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX8U26ul8cM
me too :)
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Megatron HISS
https://twitter.com/_CIAD_/status/1496898858059993088
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I ordered my Trooper / Officer sets
https://hasbropulse.com/
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That HISS looks nice, but do I need another HISS? 🤔
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i like the troopers but that's $52cdn before shipping.... so probably like what $75 CDN all in?
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I took 2 boxes, so it's 127.59 USD
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I took 2 boxes, so it's 127.59 USD
Yikes, that is $163.29CDN, or $40.82 each figure.
I so want to get in on this line, but the price is killing me. I mean it is a 60% increase versus the US price (exchange rate adjusted). Shipping definitely doesn't help, but in the end $40.82 per figure!!!
As for the rest. I WANT ALL THE CLASSIFIED FIGURES!!!!!! :)
That Megatron/HISS is exactly what I have wanted for years from Hasbro, and finally we get it, and it scales with the ARAH figures!!!! My 10 year old self is jumping for joy still.
I have preordered the Megatron/HISS and Stalker and the Twins. I want to get the Viper 3 pack, but I need will wait a bit to see if it sells out online at the local retailers.
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I so want to get in on this line, but the price is killing me. I mean it is a 60% increase versus the US price (exchange rate adjusted). Shipping definitely doesn't help, but in the end $40.82 per figure!!!
I totally agree. Here is the break down:
Subtotal: $83.98
Shipping: $26.99
CANADA GST: $5.55
QUEBEC QST: $11.07
Total: $127.59 USD
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I so want to get in on this line, but the price is killing me. I mean it is a 60% increase versus the US price (exchange rate adjusted). Shipping definitely doesn't help, but in the end $40.82 per figure!!!
I totally agree. Here is the break down:
Subtotal: $83.98
Shipping: $26.99
CANADA GST: $5.55
QUEBEC QST: $11.07
Total: $127.59 USD
AGREED! I want this line to keep going but its too much for me....ARRGH
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Yeah pre-pandemic me would have been all in on the new O-ring no questions asked.
However post (current) pandemic me is being much more selective on what I get, thanks mostly due to the price increases.
I got in on the Skystriker, so I'll get some new O-ring figures that way, and that will probably further wreck my willpower. However until then I can probably stay strong.
Also it helps that Classified is killing it right now. Why pay $40CDN+ for an O-ring figure when I can get the Classified version for less in most cases? Nostalgia is a killer on the wallet, but there are limits.
Also it doesn't help that different companies are also doing retro lines for cheaper. I am currently collecting the Masters Of The Universe: Origins line. They started out at $15 and can still be found for less than $20 in a lot of cases. Yes the prices on them are going up as well, and they aren't exact replicas of the original MOTU line, but when compared to O-ring, they are a much better value.
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What I don't understand with that retro o-ring line, is their choice of fig. They start with SS/SE probably because of the popularity of these characters. Then Cobre troopers, Duke and CC... I mean why not starting at the begening with the O13: Hawk, Breaker, Short-Fuse, Stalker, etc.
Not sure why they started with a mix of figs from 1983 and 1984.
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42 US for two army builders? Come on.
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42 US for two army builders? Come on.
Agree. But I see this as a way to get MOC fig and to let them in package as I can't afford vintage figs MOC. I just hope they will do most of the 1983-1985 series.
And hopefully 6-pack for army builders.
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42 US for two army builders? Come on.
Agree. But I see this as a way to get MOC fig and to let them in package as I can't afford vintage figs MOC. I just hope they will do most of the 1983-1985 series.
And hopefully 6-pack for army builders.
The big problem with the new O-ring figures is the cardbacks themselves. Apparently from what I have seen online, the cardboard is pretty flimsy and people are reporting bends/creases right out of the package. It is just the continuing trend of cost cutting that makes it harder to collect MOSC.
The flip side to this is that the original O-ring figures MOSC are both ridiculously expensive, and every year a bigger and bigger risk to buy. You have the standard problem of disintegrating O-rings, which leaves you with a MOSC puzzle inside a bubble. However now there are more examples of yellowing bubbles, and the heels on figures breaking more often due to age. It makes for an ever smaller amount of truly MOSC figures that people buy.
So these new O-rings are a good alternative for those of us that want some original (or as close as possible) ARAH figures MOSC.
Yet I still haven't pulled the trigger because $42US (something like $70US with shipping/tax) is just too pricey for me right now.