Post by: condor knight on June 03, 2011, 08:44:55 AM
So I though i would let everyone know about this just in case.
here is the article from CP24 http://http://www.cp24.com/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110603/110603_postal_strike/20110603/?hub=CP24Home
Post by: Stealth Viper on June 03, 2011, 08:52:02 AM
They plan to do a "phased strike" affecting one city at a time. But it's not rolling - meaning that when Toronto goes (for example) winnipeg doesn't go back to work - winnipeg AND toronto will be on strike - and so forth and so on.
Strongly advise that people don't send or have people send to them any parcels until this is settled.
Post by: condor knight on June 03, 2011, 09:05:17 AM
Quote from: "Stealth Viper"
Strongly advise that people don't send or have people send to them any parcels until this is settled.
or if you are purchasing something online ask for a quote for UPS or Fedex.
If you are attending the CJC this year and you purchase something from a sponsor ask them if you could pick it up at the CJC. I know i allow that since it gives me the chance to talk with the person face to face.
Post by: pdaat on June 03, 2011, 09:28:48 AM
Good thing I got Waves 5 and 6 from a sponsor!
Post by: BHMike on June 03, 2011, 09:52:38 AM
Just safer to not use Canada Post for anything right now - just in case.
I'll be using this now: http://www.ishipandsave.com/index.php/home (http://www.ishipandsave.com/index.php/home)
I signed up awhile back - one time fee. I also had a code to use to get more of a discount.
Post by: ARROW on June 03, 2011, 11:33:41 AM
Quote from: "Stealth Viper"
It has already started as of 12:01 this morning. Winnipeg has no service.
They plan to do a "phased strike" affecting one city at a time. But it's not rolling - meaning that when Toronto goes (for example) winnipeg doesn't go back to work - winnipeg AND toronto will be on strike - and so forth and so on.
Strongly advise that people don't send or have people send to them any parcels until this is settled.
Could you please point to a source where that statement is made because my reading of the news says its supposed to be a rolling strike, not a phased one.
Honestly though, who do they think they are kidding with the "phased strike" idea? Slowly shutting off the mail is just going to piss the public off even more, and I think moreso than an abrupt nation-wide walkout would.
Yeah there's still some service, but various locations process mail through them to other destinations in Canada ( as I understand it) and if the mail tries to funnel through there it'll get caught up in the stoppages anyway, so whatever service there is in the still active areas slows down regardless.
I have some parcels inbound ( one I've been very much wanting) and I have some letters that could be affected by this, so I'm antsy about this strike, and the length it could have. And there's stuff I want to order from places like Bounty Hunter Toys and I can't place an order because I don't want it tied up in the strike mess.
Post by: Stealth Viper on June 03, 2011, 11:46:37 AM
Quote from: "ARROW"
Could you please point to a source where that statement is made because my reading of the news says its supposed to be a rolling strike, not a phased one.
Heard it from a postal employee. This also seems to confirm it (and says Hamilton, Ontario is the next city to join)
http://winnipeg.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local ... nnipegHome (http://winnipeg.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110603/canada-post-strike-110603/20110603/?hub=WinnipegHome)
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Postal workers in Hamilton, Ontario will be following their Winnipeg co-workers onto the picket line, as their union tries to increase pressure on continuing negotiations with Canada Post.
Rotating strike doesn't make much sense, as it won't add to the pressure. ADDING another city will.
Post by: BHMike on June 03, 2011, 01:36:31 PM
Quote from: "ARROW"
[And there's stuff I want to order from places like Bounty Hunter Toys and I can't place an order because I don't want it tied up in the strike mess.
By all means, order it. I have two orders I'm currently holding for people and they're willing to wait for the strike to be over to get their items.
As one customer said to me today in an email "I know about the strike up there in Canada. I want those items so I don't mind waiting until that mess is over."
Post by: ARROW on June 03, 2011, 01:52:12 PM
Quote from: "THE Mike™"
Quote from: "ARROW"[And there's stuff I want to order from places like Bounty Hunter Toys and I can't place an order because I don't want it tied up in the strike mess.
By all means, order it. I have two orders I'm currently holding for people and they're willing to wait for the strike to be over to get their items.
As one customer said to me today in an email "I know about the strike up there in Canada. I want those items so I don't mind waiting until that mess is over."
Alrighty, I'll just rev my credit card up to hot-standby.....;-)
Post by: bandonov on June 04, 2011, 09:40:13 PM
Post by: Sundance on June 23, 2011, 02:12:00 PM
Post by: ARROW on June 23, 2011, 02:32:12 PM
Quote from: "Sundance"
so when's this strike finish?The House of Commons is debating the back-to-work bill today ( even though the Tories have a majority its part of the legislative process) so the bill MIGHT be passed tomorrow sometime, if so then the mail should start running again early next week.
Which would be dandy for me, because I have several things inbound that cannot be delivered because of the strike.
Post by: Realboss on June 25, 2011, 02:57:03 PM
I only wish the other shippers were cheaper and carried affordable letter post and if I wasn't worried about the employees losing their livleyhoods I would never use Canada Post again.
Post by: ARROW on June 25, 2011, 03:53:36 PM
If anything, the strike is an illustration of how badly managed the postal union is. They had 14 years to push for incremental wage increases and locked in benefits for new workers, but they chose to wait. Now they are asking for something that might just not be sustainable in any sense, and they'll NOT get what they want when the government arbitrates a settlement. But this "crisis management" style is how both Canada Post and the postal union have run things for many years now.
What its going to mean for all of us is that there will be future disputes and disruptions in years to come.
I would just forget about the notion of postage rates remaining stable at all--postage WILL rise and likely will very soon after this strike is over.
Post by: aaronxvx on June 27, 2011, 07:10:02 PM
I don't see why Canada Post should remain a crown corp. Why not privatize it and allow competition for other carriers to make postage more affordable?
Anything more than a letter to a parcel that can fit through their slot just turns into getting robbed.
I used to actively run a small vinyl distro and it's painful having to compromise on shipping rates, because even Canadian customers would pay less for shipping from someone in the US, and it's hard to convince US customer's to pay twice the cost of shipping they would through USPS. I know part of the reason CPs rates are so high is because we don't have the same infrastructure as USPS and our population isn't as dense, but even their small business program (I forget the name of it) which is supposed to give you discounts is ridiculous, and still asks you to pay full retail price for packaging materials.
If we allowed other competitors delivering the same services, I think the rates would get better, and we wouldn't have to worry about the mail service, which so many people rely on being strangled because of disputes like this.
I'm not sure of how it would work to let other companies handle the mail, but I think it would be a better situation than being left with no other choice.