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Title: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: morgardee on February 01, 2012, 03:00:54 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/life/comics/story/2012-02-01/GI-Joe-Retaliation-movie-toys/52918456/1

Much better then the first movie. I could army build those Cobra troopers and even the Jo troopers.

The only lemon of the group is Zartan.

Also, it looks like that cool Storm Shadow everyone's being talking about has been re-used as the red ninja. The movie Storm Shadow is very cool.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: morgardee on February 01, 2012, 03:31:12 PM
Road Block doesn't really look much like classic. It would have been easy for them to throw on the camo sleeveless shirt but still, not a bad looking figure. I imagine well see a bunch of versions of Roadblock but I like the body on this one. It had great custom potential. 

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r73/morgardee/Customs/Roadblock.jpg)

Cobra Commander looks way better then the first movie figure. I can easily add this version next to my other Cobra Commander figures. It's like classic Cobra Commander and th armour Cobra Commander mixed together.

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r73/morgardee/Customs/Cobracommander.jpg)

I really like the Cobra Trooper. Sure he's got that baby blue look going but the mold itself looks really good and I hope to see several straight re-paints of this guy. Give me a desert version of him and I'd be in heaven. I'm sure we'll see him in black but honestly I'm getting sick of seeing action figures in heavy black in my collection. between all the Snake Eyes figures, the first Joe movie and all my customs that I rit dyed black because it's so easy to do, I'm done with black for now. Back to this figure, I really dig his gear.

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r73/morgardee/Customs/CobraTrooper.jpg)

The Duke figure isn't really bad. I'll pick a few of this figure and ditch the head for custom fodder. The outfit has me wondering about the movie. I don't recall him looking like this in the trailer so it gives me some hope that he is still alive, and not dead like some people have speculated since he's only in the start of the trailer. Hopefully the commercial during the Super Bowl will give us a bit more insight to Duke. I think he probably just got captured or is in a coma (like the cartoon movie) and comes back for a huge fight scene at the end of the movie.

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r73/morgardee/Customs/Duke.jpg)

Just like the Cobra Trooper, I really dig this G.I. Joe trooper and want to see more of him. he gear looks great, the body looks like a good build and will probably make great custom fodder.

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r73/morgardee/Customs/JoeTrooper.jpg)

The red ninja is all sorts of bad ass. I want 5 of him. No customizing required. All around I love it.

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r73/morgardee/Customs/RedNinja.jpg)

Speaking of Ninjas, Storm Shadow looks really nice. I like the skirt look on him. Reminds me of assassins creed a bit. It's funny but I keep thinking "why do I need another Storm Shadow" but once again, this one I need.

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r73/morgardee/Customs/StormShadow.jpg)

On the other hand, I don't think I really need any more Snake Eyes figures. I don't think they can top what they've done already. This one I'll probably get but I could pass on it as well. As a figure by itself it doesn't suck, but like I already said, enough with the black outfits already. It's getting boring. At this point I think I would welcome "desert strike Snake Eyes" or something like that over another bklack outfit.

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r73/morgardee/Customs/SnakeEyes.jpg)

Zartan doesn't look finished. His mid section looks like it needs something on it. His weapons look weak and the body construction just doesn't fit what Zartan is suppose to be. That is not a biker or a master of disguise. That looks more like a bad power rangers villain

 (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r73/morgardee/Customs/Zartan.jpg)
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: crazylegs on February 01, 2012, 05:23:45 PM
I think they are looking really good. have in hands will be a better way to tell, i also have to say i like that joe trooper!
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: morgardee on February 01, 2012, 06:13:49 PM
It's funny but I look at Roadblock and want to take the Rock head off and put a Build and Brawl Sgt Slaughter head on it. The funny part is that they are both wrestlers.  ;)
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: Redmao on February 01, 2012, 06:34:54 PM
Is it really a skirt on stormy or isn't he just wearing puffy pants?
Great stuff all around. if this is the first wave, then I wouldn't mind seeing theses figures flooding the pegs.
I guess my red ninja clans will have more recruits this summer. Great use of the recent SS body.
If they make a black repaint of that mold I'll scream like a little girl.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: ARROW on February 01, 2012, 07:01:18 PM
I am in for ALL of these. Great start to what is looking to be a very good toy year.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: pdaat on February 01, 2012, 11:27:40 PM
Sets my mind at ease.  Makes me want to open the Joe stuff I've gotten over the past several months.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: pdaat on February 01, 2012, 11:31:23 PM
How long until they start showing up on auction sites?
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: canprime on February 02, 2012, 12:14:52 AM
Man, those all suck!!!



OK, ok, kidding!!!

As others have said, these look really good. 

Roadblock - Great looking figure, even though the fatigues/black tank have been done before.  Also pretty good likeness of the Rock.  I thought they weren't going with actor likenesses?

Cobra Commander - Love the helmet, and the overall figure, but I would like a closer look at the body.  Something just seems not quite fitting to me.

Cobra Trooper - Another trooper to add to the ranks.  Great look overall, but again something just looks off but I can't quite put my finger on it.

Duke - ??  Outfit, face and weapon all seem more 2000 era, than Retaliation to me.  Still the overall wave makes me give it the benefit of the doubt.

G.I. Joe Trooper - NICE!!  Another "green shirt".  Although at first glance I thought "Hey when did Master Chief join GI Joe?"  I want a better look at whatever it is he has attached to his backpack.

Red Ninja - Nice, nice, nice!  Great use of the recent Renegades SS.

Storm Shadow - Another good looking SS.  Two in a row Hasbro.  Be careful, otherwise we might not put up with "Mountain SS" or "Diner SS"  ;D

Snake Eyes - Basically repeating everything Morgardee said.

Zartan - Love the figure, but don't get if this is supposed to be a movie figure, or a "comic/cartoon" figure like they do with the Marvel movies.

Ok, c'mon Toyfair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I really can't wait for this years.  However, let's get some more leaked pics, but this time VEHICLES!!!
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: NeoDragonKnight on February 02, 2012, 12:32:45 AM
they look great.  I really like CC and the new greenshirt.  Cobra Trooper is only so so to me, red ninjas and storm shadow look awesome.  Now show us Jinx and Lady Jaye!
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: latinjoe22 on February 02, 2012, 05:19:06 AM
Now this is the kind of fresh awesome stuff that would make me want to celebrate joe over again. Can' wait to see what Lady Jaye, Flint and Joseph Colton will look like  :D .
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: SnowHawk on February 02, 2012, 09:45:36 AM
I've been really impressed with the first showing of figures.

I was thinking it about it this morning and I think these may be THE figures of the summer.

Back in 2009 when ROC was released, Transformers 2 came out at the same time.  Kids were flocking to the new releases of Bumblebee and Op Prime. 

This summer our big movies are Dark Knight Returns, Star Wars 3D, Avengers and G.I. Joe. 
-  I've seen pictures of the Dark Knight figures and I think they'll sit on the shelf like the Green Lantern figures (come on Mattel, Hasbro is leaving you in their dust). 
-  There's new Star Wars figures coming out, but they just came out with all those figures last fall, now they have new packaging.  I think they'll sit on the shelf as well.
-  The Avengers figures are coming out but I don't think they'll sell well because Thor is still warming pegs on your local toy aisle.  Heck... in some places Iron Man 2 is still available.  I can't see people jumping at the bit to buy stuff new stuff, when they didn't buy the old stuff.

The new Retaliation figures are the only thing that is going to be different on the shelf.  Most new toys coming out, were just released last year and I think kids (and collector's) are going to notice and go for the Joe.

I have even been able to convince some of my "non-Joe" friends to start buying G.I. Joe figures.  My friend got hooked on the G.I. Joe Renegades figures and now he is picking up his favourite 30th anniversary ones.  I know for sure he will be picking up all the Retaliation figures as well.

I can't wait to see some pics of the vehicles.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: Jon S. on February 02, 2012, 05:16:26 PM
OH COME ON - WHERE IS JINX?!?!?

Not that I've been waiting impatiently for a Jinx figure. Don't mind me...

(that Rockblock figure looks excellent though)
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: SnowHawk on February 03, 2012, 10:00:18 AM
OH COME ON - WHERE IS JINX?!?!?

Not that I've been waiting impatiently for a Jinx figure. Don't mind me...

(that Rockblock figure looks excellent though)

http://www.hasbro.com/gijoe/en_US/retaliation.cfm (http://www.hasbro.com/gijoe/en_US/retaliation.cfm)

Jinx is the SDCC exclusive this year.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: Redmao on February 03, 2012, 10:52:16 AM
From the reactions, I'd say a lot of people were waiting to add Movie Jinx to their roster.
Glad that they reissued the VvV Ninja Lightning, it's a fun little bike.
As much as I love ninja, I'm not sure that ninjafying everything from the movie is such a brilliant idea.
I can't wait to add these figures to my collection.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: morgardee on February 03, 2012, 10:59:39 AM
I'm trying to decide if that's suppose to be Slice in the "Ninja Showdown" set. I also love the fact the Cobra Trooper has a parachute since my son has been wanting a parachute action figure to play with. 
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: Redmao on February 03, 2012, 11:14:23 AM
http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=9&itemid=18242
Slightly bigger pictures.
Yes, it's Slice or at least a red ninja wearing the mask from that PoC SE.

I'll get that set just for the red and black Renegade Stormy repaint.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: grunt 4 mvp on February 03, 2012, 04:40:33 PM
No Lady Jaye?
No Grunt? (I don't he's long for the movie...sigh)
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: Jon S. on February 03, 2012, 04:43:40 PM
OH COME ON - WHERE IS JINX?!?!?

Not that I've been waiting impatiently for a Jinx figure. Don't mind me...

(that Rockblock figure looks excellent though)

http://www.hasbro.com/gijoe/en_US/retaliation.cfm (http://www.hasbro.com/gijoe/en_US/retaliation.cfm)

Jinx is the SDCC exclusive this year.

@#$@ %$% &*%!!!!!
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: Sundance on February 03, 2012, 05:08:21 PM
according to some folks at Serpentor's Lair, they're not doing female figures because Walmart 'demanded' Hasbro not do them because they don't sell. despite WalMart not selling Joes any more.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: Redmao on February 03, 2012, 05:52:29 PM
Wally is a maniac.
If this is true, Hasbro could simply make the female figures into TRU exclusives or pack them in 3 pack.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: canprime on February 03, 2012, 07:01:16 PM
Damn, they really pooched us on the vehicles.  So far only 2 brand new molds, and the rest are re-dos, or heavy mods.  I'm a vehicle guy and I was really hoping they would go with some lesser used molds (that are still available).  Here's my thoughts:

VEHICLES:

Another black AWE with a new grill, weapon and added kibble on the back.
Another Water Moccasin with added kibble weapon (although the colour is admittedly awesome)  At least the driver looks interesting.
Another PAIR!!!!!!!!!! of Ninja Cycles!!!!!!!! CRIPES!!!!!!!
Another new VAMP.  At least the colour scheme is nice and the added rear shell and missile rack are nice too.  However I'm not a fan of the mold.
Another HISS SCOUT.  Honestly, this mold isn't popular and it is RARE!!!  Interesting choice of colour and making it a JOE vehicle.  I actually do like the roll cage.

Finally a new mold:  The Wheel Blaster whatever.  I really like the look of the bike, but it doesn't seem to correspond to anything we have seen in the film footage.  I will definitely pick one up.  One question?  What is up with the third wheel?  If you look at the middle of the bike, it appears to be a third wheel, but I can't tell why it is there.

HISS V6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Ok, at first I thougt this was a simple, slight remold, but it appears it is heavily modded.  The canopy is obviously new.  So is the middle cannon, but it also has room for a figure in the cannon.  As well the treads appear to be new and someone suggested the raising/lowering gimmick appears to be gone as well.  LOVE the blue colour and love the toy overall.

GHOSTHAWK II.  Need more and better pics.  But for now colour me unimpressed.  It looks to be a one seater, the colour scheme doesn't do it for me, and from the first pic, it appears the engines are too big for the frame.  I hope it is better in person.

SHOCKWAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  SHOCKWAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  WOW, just WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I love the colour scheme, and I already stated how I like the new HISS, but to change the cannon to match Shockwave's gun mode from G1???  AHHHHHHHH......AHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I can't wait to see what figure is paired with him.  I won't make the same mistake as with Starscream.  I am getting him. 

FIGURES:

From what we have already seen: 

BOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Giant, oversized launcher weapons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  BOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CC - Still looks good, but a little off somehow.  I don't know why.  HOWEVER, that staff???  I am going to be buying a TON of thoses CCs just for that staff.  Incredible accessory in my opinion.
Zartan - Interesting, we now see where Hasbro was going with him.  I am assuming he is a "flashback" version to a time at the dojo with SS and SE.
SS and SE:  SS looks even better.  Could be best version ever.  SE, still meh.  Even more worrying is the possible Spiderman/Batman theme with multiple SEs with just different "attack" gear.
Cobra Trooper:  Great, a parachute.  As if I needed even more reason  to want this figure.  AWESOME!!!!
GI Joe Trooper:  OK, what the hell???  I love the second "breather" mask, but what the !%#$ is with the cape????  Also he has a mohawk?  Definitely will get the figure, but I need more info and pics about what is up with him.  Especially the cape!!!

The new:

Jinx - Well the white variant SDCC exclusive is a pass for me, but I will get it if available for cheap.  The red version is probably as close to ARAH as we are going to get so I will pick one up, but would have liked a little bit of a different molding on the head to match up even more with the ARAH version.

I'm going to guess SLICE, FIREFLY and KAMAKURA?? from the 2 ninja sets.  I like them all, but what the hell is Roadblock doing with the ninja set?  C'mon Hasbro.

CLUTCH is ok, but whatever.  The SE with the remolded VAMP kind of looks interesting.  However I really want to see better pics of the Fangboat Driver and the HISS Driver (battle armor CC?).  They look like they could be interesting.

THE REST:

Interesting masks, standard roleplay accessories, and please just stop with the battlers.  They look great, but are they really sellers?
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: Redmao on February 03, 2012, 07:30:40 PM
Forget the little cheap masks that Hasbro is producing for all their lines, now.
They should make a full Snake Eyes helmet with voice changing device.
Voice changing in the fact that the helmet blocks every sound coming out of it.  ;D
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: ARROW on February 03, 2012, 09:13:29 PM
TNI has hi-rez pics up of everything shown to date.

There's some disappointments: notably the vehicle drivers and their articulation.

They appear to have very little. If the vehicle figures accurately reflect the final production design, they will be let-downs.

On the VEHICLE drivers:
-Std. Ball/socket head
-Pin shoulders.
-NO elbow joints.
-NO wrist joints
-Possible pin waist joint.
-T-crotch hips.
-NO knee joints.
-Possible ankle joints.

That's it.
Note: the motorcycle drivers might have more, because they need to fit on the bikes, but the other vehicle drivers have what is described above.
This is a matter that someone attending ToyFair should press home with Hasbro--asking if indeed these are the POAs for the vehicle drivers. Nothing can be done about adding POAs at this point.....these toys are in factory and being made now for delivery dates when the movie comes out. Its too late to add to them. But at least we can know what is going to be the case with them beforehand.

For me, the single figures are what I'll be going for. The vehicle are all passes, as almost all the ROC vehicles were--and even those I bought on discount.
Mind you, there's still 14 more items left to be revealed..........so, maybe something left will have some sparkle for me.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: pdaat on February 03, 2012, 09:30:10 PM
TNI has hi-rez pics up of everything shown to date.

There's some disappointments: notably the vehicle drivers and their articulation.

They appear to have very little. If the vehicle figures accurately reflect the final production design, they will be let-downs.

On the VEHICLE drivers:
-Std. Ball/socket head
-Pin shoulders.
-NO elbow joints.
-NO wrist joints
-Possible pin waist joint.
-T-crotch hips.
-NO knee joints.
-Possible ankle joints.

That's it.
Note: the motorcycle drivers might have more, because they need to fit on the bikes, but the other vehicle drivers have what is described above.
This is a matter that someone attending ToyFair should press home with Hasbro--asking if indeed these are the POAs for the vehicle drivers. Nothing can be done about adding POAs at this point.....these toys are in factory and being made now for delivery dates when the movie comes out. Its too late to add to them. But at least we can know what is going to be the case with them beforehand.

For me, the single figures are what I'll be going for. The vehicle are all passes, as almost all the ROC vehicles were--and even those I bought on discount.
Mind you, there's still 14 more items left to be revealed..........so, maybe something left will have some sparkle for me.
I was looking forward to a couple of the vehicles until you pointed out the articulation.  If Hasbro farming out the vehicles drivers to Mattel? 
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: canprime on February 03, 2012, 10:14:13 PM
The 14 more are probably standard release, but I don't think we will see any store exclusives until Toyfair.  That is when we should see some stuff not directly from the movie.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: ARROW on February 03, 2012, 10:18:49 PM
TNI has hi-rez pics up of everything shown to date.

There's some disappointments: notably the vehicle drivers and their articulation.

They appear to have very little. If the vehicle figures accurately reflect the final production design, they will be let-downs.

On the VEHICLE drivers:
-Std. Ball/socket head
-Pin shoulders.
-NO elbow joints.
-NO wrist joints
-Possible pin waist joint.
-T-crotch hips.
-NO knee joints.
-Possible ankle joints.

That's it.
Note: the motorcycle drivers might have more, because they need to fit on the bikes, but the other vehicle drivers have what is described above.
This is a matter that someone attending ToyFair should press home with Hasbro--asking if indeed these are the POAs for the vehicle drivers. Nothing can be done about adding POAs at this point.....these toys are in factory and being made now for delivery dates when the movie comes out. Its too late to add to them. But at least we can know what is going to be the case with them beforehand.

For me, the single figures are what I'll be going for. The vehicle are all passes, as almost all the ROC vehicles were--and even those I bought on discount.
Mind you, there's still 14 more items left to be revealed..........so, maybe something left will have some sparkle for me.
I was looking forward to a couple of the vehicles until you pointed out the articulation.  If Hasbro farming out the vehicles drivers to Mattel?

The driver with the  new VAMP would be an awesome figure---IF he had added articulation. He's got a detailed modern-design that would be ideal for a stand-alone figure.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: ARROW on February 03, 2012, 10:20:06 PM
The 14 more are probably standard release, but I don't think we will see any store exclusives until Toyfair.  That is when we should see some stuff not directly from the movie.
Toyfair is next week, that is why we are seeing what we are seeing right now. Previews always start around this time.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: Pete The Greek on February 04, 2012, 10:07:15 AM
(http://i.toynewsi.com/g/albums/Hasbro/Toy_Fair_GIJOE_Retaliation//GIJoe_Brovo_Clutch.jpg)

A nice looking figure without any joints.  WTF Hasbro.  This isn't Mattel. 
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: morgardee on February 04, 2012, 01:43:08 PM
I don't even know where to start.

I will buy the figures. I will buy the VAMP. I will buy the Hiss Tanks (if I can get the SDCC for retail).

The rest I will pass on until I see it on clearance sale and I usually buy everything.

Let me try to intimate the Rock for a moment here: "FINALLY, HASBRO HAS BROUGHT BACK G.I.JOE TO MAIN STREAM ATTENTION". And they are following up the toy line (you know, the thing it's based on) and showing up with G.I.Joe Extreme?

I agree with Pete and would give him a timbit right now if I wasn't out of 'em. WTF Hasbro.

Seriously, 5 points of articulation on vehicle drivers, NOW? When people are going to be looking at you more now then they have since the mid 80's? I don't get it.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: Sundance on February 04, 2012, 02:11:53 PM
the idea i saw advanced on Serpentor's Lair was that these a pre-production protos and the actual toys may well have more articulation.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: ARROW on February 04, 2012, 02:30:39 PM
Quote
Seriously, 5 points of articulation on vehicle drivers, NOW? When people are going to be looking at you more now then they have since the mid 80's? I don't get it.

To be fair, the articulation schemes on the vehicle driver figures were locked in some time ago--well before the trailers were released and the excitement ignited for this movie.
Hasbro had to make a judgement call and decide how to play this toy line before they had any clue as to how this film would be initially received, so they clearly decided to "play it safe" by spending less. It cannot be changed at this point in time, I think......and there's marketing data for other well-received movie toy-lines that did soft business ( Captain America, Thor) that would advise caution.

Its puzzling/confusing to me why they are going with new-sculpts, but less POAs for the vehicle drivers. If costs are a concern here, then why not Frankenstein the new driver characters out of older tooling and just add new heads?? They'd keep the POAs that make the figures appealing, give us new characters with minimal parts and save $$$ in the process. IF.........IF the POAs are the new routine for drivers, then are they serious about re-using these new tools for figures again down the road--because that will make their bigger price-point items (the vehicles) a lot LESS appealing.
And I don't get why POC was loaded with POAs out the yin yang, and suddenly Retaliation product takes considerable hits on the POAs.
Retaliation is going to see wider exposure regardless, than POC did--this was a given even before the trailers came out, so why ratchet articulation down?

On the vehicles.......its happening again, really. ROC was marketed very timidly with regards to vehicles. We are getting the same thing this time around too, but even more so. Most of the vehicles have been seen before, and most of those seen one form in the last 2 years besides.
At least there's no Mole-pods this time......
Sure, they are modding old tooling again---which is fine, and they are using GOOD items to base these new toys off of...........I'm okay with that. But the old arguments made back with ROC resurface--there's no guts to this toy line, there's no back-bone.
Despite some really nice single-pack figures the whole Retaliation line is half-assed.

Maybe Wave 2 or later stuff will pick up the slack.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: morgardee on February 05, 2012, 08:17:12 AM
If they are reusing vehicle molds and going for a more realistic look for it, then why not pull out the Vamp (v1) again. Sure it's been used a lot but changing the colours and giving us a new weapon attachment on the back goes a long way. Maybe well see a Walmart or Target exclusive with that.

Hopefully Joe 2 will be a decent hit and they will be able to push a lot of toys for the movie release AND another big push when the DVD comes out. I suspect the DVD will be out for November, giving Hasbro another wave to push in time for Christmas 2012.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: ARROW on February 05, 2012, 12:58:41 PM
If they are reusing vehicle molds and going for a more realistic look for it, then why not pull out the Vamp (v1) again. Sure it's been used a lot but changing the colours and giving us a new weapon attachment on the back goes a long way. Maybe well see a Walmart or Target exclusive with that.

Hopefully Joe 2 will be a decent hit and they will be able to push a lot of toys for the movie release AND another big push when the DVD comes out. I suspect the DVD will be out for November, giving Hasbro another wave to push in time for Christmas 2012.

IMO, the new VAMP mold is a good one. Its a welcome re-hash, I feel. The Awestriker is very stale though.
I would have thought that the brand would have re-purposed some of the Captain America vehicles as GIJOE vehicles, because, by golly, they'd be perfect for Joes. I do think the vehicle selection this time around is stronger, but vehicles used to be the thrust of what GIJOE was--and that has turned around to the figures being the main thing.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: pdaat on February 06, 2012, 11:26:49 AM
I like the VAMP and the Ghost Hawk II.  I would agree the AWE is stale - but it has been stale for quite a while.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: NeoDragonKnight on February 11, 2012, 02:27:32 PM

Lots of new pics!

http://www.gijoeclub.com/toyfair12/toyfair12preview.cfm

I really want the John MaClane, Rock and NYCC exclusive Lady Jaye.  The grey ninja is great too.  The others are kinda meh.
(http://www.gijoeclub.com/toyfair12/webfiles/joecolton.jpg.800.jpg)
(http://www.gijoeclub.com/toyfair12/webfiles/dragon_ninja.jpg.800.jpg)
(http://www.gijoeclub.com/toyfair12/webfiles/ladyjaye.jpg.800.jpg)

daaaamn I want that Shockwave Hiss, that mini Soundwave is just too cool.
(http://www.gijoeclub.com/toyfair12/webfiles/DSC_9988.JPG.800.jpg)
(http://www.gijoeclub.com/toyfair12/webfiles/DSC_9996.jpg.800.jpg)
and there WILL be a retail release of Jinx.  And it will be an EASY repaint to a red clad Jinx custom for all
(http://www.gijoeclub.com/toyfair12/webfiles/kimarashikage.jpg.800.jpg)
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: ARROW on February 11, 2012, 02:45:24 PM
To be honest and candid, I'm indifferent about these new reveals.  They are not bad, per se, but I was expecting "more"--something more exciting in them.
They are not ho-hum, but certainly not  "hoooo-hah!" either.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: Jon S. on February 11, 2012, 08:17:10 PM
The black and yellow Jinx looks great. But I really want a red one. I'll be shelling out for it. The Shockwave H.I.S.S. is also a thing of beauty.

The Bruce Willis fig also looks incredible. I always wanted a John McClaine action figure.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: ARROW on February 11, 2012, 08:25:34 PM
Been looking at the reveals today, and my opinion hasn't changed........if anything its taken a darker turn.

Just not feeling a lot of these as toys, and granted some of them are clearly protos put together and painted in time for the event. But they are not reaching out to me as interesting toys.

Case in point; Joe Colton is......as a figure, he's mighty weak. The aged visage of Bruce Willis was a sort of nagging concern in the back of my head.....along with the question: how were they going to make him appear heroic and translate that into a toy?
Frankly, he looks like "Gran'pa Joe", armed with his suspenders and missing only his "jug 'o 'shine"! For such a cornerstone character in the mythos (he's supposed to be the ORIGINAL GIJOE), there should have been more careful thought put into his toy design.
I hope I'm dead wrong about this, but I predict this figure is going to peg-warm. Snake-Eyes, or the Rock, with guns and swords............yeah............old fart with gun..........bleh.
Ain't gonna fly.
I'm done going on about the vehicles. They are 100% flat-line dead for me. Zero interest.

There were two figures I saw at the end of a photo series of the Hasbro Joe display that did get my notice: a new Crimson Guardsman and Night-Viper. Nice looking figures and nice army builders. They make me glad there will be some stuff to buy, and golly.......there's not a huge amount here. Some figures look nice, certainly nice enough to add to my collection, but the big verve; the sparkle that would make me want to collect them all ( rather than cherry-pick) just isn't here. Disappointing because a movie line SHOULD be an event in itself. This one, like so many others, isn't.  :(

Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: canprime on February 12, 2012, 06:53:47 AM
Ok.

Here is my usual long take on things.

VEHICLES:

UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Colour me unimpressed.   The Ghost Hawk II looks even worse "in person" (not official images).  The colour scheme, missile colour and overall (my opinion) poor design combined with being able to hold what?  1-2 figs?  Horrible.  I won't be getting it until a sale.  Thorw the Ninja 4x4 on there as well.  I don't need another AWE Striker done up as something else.  Really Hasbro, this mold has been used what?  10 times since the 80s?  This is what?  The 6th version since 2000?  Enough!!!  Also this is the 3rd "black" version out of those 6.  Tiresome, uninspired.  You could have repurposed a vehicle from one of the Marvel lines and it would have been better.  The motorcycles are ok, I like the Firefly one, but not the SE one.  I originally thought that the SE one was just the Ninja cycle repainted, but it looks like a new mold.  The Fangboat is nice, although I actually would have liked all black instead of grey, but it is a nice look.  Just wish I could ditch the launcher for another gun.  Swamp Viper looks interesting as well.  The Tread Ripper is growing on me, but I HATE the new molded tracks.  A real step back from the HISS Scout.

The HISS is where it's at apparently.  I like the new mold, but again HATE the molded tracks. I love the colour and new canopy.  I actually think the weapons are bordering on "kibble", but at least it has a bit more punch.  I'm not sure about the CC that comes with it though.  I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  the SDDC Shockwave HISS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  The colour is great, the G1 cannon homage is awesome and the mini Soundwave with cassettes is incredible!!!!!!!!!!  Add the energon cubes and 2 figures and this is a great exclusive.  I don't actually care for the purple Destro and 90s dayglow BAT, but still it is an interesting looking exclusive.

FIGURES:

First, I don't understand the large amount of whining I am seeing on other boards about ankle articulation.  I understand how much better a figure is with it, but the way people are talking it is like that is a deal breaker and they won't be picking up a lot of figures because of that reason.  Weird.

So, from what we have seen (take a look on toynewsi for a breakdown of waves 1-5 of what is known/pictured)

Wave 1 - We've all seen this already.  Love the CC, especially the snake head staff.  Most of these will be a must buy.  Good selection for wave 1.
Wave 2 - I actually prefer this RB to wave 1.  SE, meh, but I think most of the SEs look meh.
Wave 3 - Alley Viper.  Did we really need another one?  Especially in a bad camo pattern?  I am thinking Crimson Alley Viper.  Cyber Viper??  Really???  I guess Hasbro really wanted to justify the Wraith mold and get some money out of it.  Really poor choice, especially since the look is basically Wraith with blue highlights.  Black Dragon.  Great mold, but now we have white, red, black and kamakura blue?  I already have a ton of Ninja figures.  It is going to be tough to justify more unless they are on sale.  Joe Colton.  HAHAHAHA.  I love it!!!  A John McClane (Bruce Willis) figure at last!!!  Too bad they made him a "roid rage" figure and totally unrealistic to the actor.  Still, it will be bought.  Lady Jaye.  Great figure, horrible camo.  If she was in green, maybe, but that colour ugly.  Probably will get her on first run, but might wait until a sale.
Wave 4 - Blind Master and Jinx.  Both look interesting and movie accurate I'm sure.  I probably will get both.
Wave 5 - Finally, something to drool over!!!  I am not sure about the helmet on the new CG, and Hasbro please, please, please don't screw up the helmet for the Night Viper, but otherwise these will be multiple purchases no problem!!!!!!!!!!!!

A few final notes for now.  I am disappointed in the packaging.  I think the colour choice is bad, and too reminiscent of Lanard-type figures.  As well the Roadblock/SE art looks off to me.  Since when is Roadblock part of the Arahshikage clan?  I also would have liked to have seen the Vamp remold and at least one or two store exclusives.  I'm hoping that there are some and we just aren't seeing them yet.  Someone else wrote something that really summed up this product offering so far......timid!!!  The figures look really great for the most part, however a movie line is pretty easy on the figure side when you can basically do the characters.  The vehicles are definitely an admission by Hasbro that they are not really behind the line since they were burned by the ROC line.  It is fairly uninspired.  I am excited by new product, but disheartened by the scope of the line.  I of course wanted more.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: morgardee on February 12, 2012, 08:08:38 AM
So now New York comic con gets and exclusive? C'mon Hasbro Canada. We've got Fan Expo. That thing is getting huge. Give us an exclusive. Something we can use to trade to our American buddies for those cool Jinx figures.

Like most I'll pass on most of the vehicles. I'll get a Hiss tank and maybe the Vamp and wait for Winners to sell off the rest.

Ninjas ninjas ninjas. Well they made it easy for me. At first I was thinking I was going maybe 5 of those red ninjas. Now that I see there is going to be a bunch of the same figure with different outfits I'm just going to buy one of each. So thanks for the heads up Hasbro. Any chance you'll give us a baby blue (Cobra blue) ninja? At first I was joking when I thought now, however now I would buy one.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: pdaat on February 12, 2012, 10:49:10 AM
To be honest and candid, I'm indifferent about these new reveals.  They are not bad, per se, but I was expecting "more"--something more exciting in them.
They are not ho-hum, but certainly not  "hoooo-hah!" either.
I feel the same way.  Just more of the same. But not sure what else to expect.  I do like the feel of them better than ROC.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: B on February 12, 2012, 03:22:51 PM
so far I'm not interested in like 90% of what I've seen. Disappointing.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: morgardee on February 12, 2012, 05:54:51 PM
To be honest and candid, I'm indifferent about these new reveals.  They are not bad, per se, but I was expecting "more"--something more exciting in them.
They are not ho-hum, but certainly not  "hoooo-hah!" either.
I feel the same way.  Just more of the same. But not sure what else to expect.  I do like the feel of them better than ROC.

That's it exactly. Better then ROC as Cobra was pretty bad and they Joes without the body armour were middle of the pack as far as G.I.Joe goes.

There were a few stand out ROC figures:
Helix
Pit Commando
Bench Press.

I'm sure there is more but that's off the top of my head.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: NeoDragonKnight on February 12, 2012, 09:00:02 PM
Im expecting to only cherry pick from this line too, the exclusives for sure I want, Lady Jaye, Night Viper and maybe the CGs.  I want a Rock and John MacClane more for the novelty more than anything.  The Black Dragon Ninja is tempting, I never got a renegades SS (to be honest I still like my 25th one), but from what everyone has been saying its one of the best figures ever.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: ARROW on February 12, 2012, 09:24:23 PM
Im expecting to only cherry pick from this line too, the exclusives for sure I want, Lady Jaye, Night Viper and maybe the CGs.  I want a Rock and John MacClane more for the novelty more than anything.  The Black Dragon Ninja is tempting, I never got a renegades SS (to be honest I still like my 25th one), but from what everyone has been saying its one of the best figures ever.
Renegades SS is a great figure. I was lucky to get mine right away from my LCS. There are some dealers here that apparently can still order in the wave 9 cases with the figure.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: ARROW on February 12, 2012, 09:40:50 PM
It just struck me what those 5 POA driver figures remind me of......surprised I did not realize it before:


They are glorified "Happy Meal" toys!! :o :o


Can we get fries with them???? ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: olyeller01 on February 13, 2012, 12:41:30 AM
I'm all about the vehicles, and the vehicles disappoint.  I'm not a big fan of any of the bikes.  As for the HISS, I have 5 of the black PoC HISSes, and I think they're just about the end-all be-all for that mold.  While I do like the new canopy, that alone is not enough to get me to pick up yet another HISS.  I already have multiple versions of the AWE Striker and the Water Moccasin, so no go there.  While I like the mods to the PoC VAMP mold, I don't like the color or the Arashikage symbols all over it.  The HISS Scout update is OK, but I like the original better.  The one thing I was really interested in was the Ghost Hawk II, but I really dislike the bright orange missile color.  That, and it's a reuse of the Cobra Black Dragon mold, which while not terrible is not very big and only holds one fig.  The Shockwave HISS is just ok to me.  It's not a home run like the SDCC Starscream, though I do really dig the small Soundwave accessory.   Price will be the big determinant on if I get that or not.

As for the figures, I'll get the Rock, Bruce Willis, and the Adrianne Palicki Lady Jaye figs on the Joe side (maybe the Joe trooper too) and the Cobra paratrooper and Night Viper on the Cobra side.  The Siegie is a maybe, while the Alley Viper is a HELL no.  Without body armor, he looks terribly skinny and weak, especially compared to the 25th and PoC releases.  As for the SDCC exclusives, the red Jinx is a no-brainer.  Not a fan of the white one.

And whoever at Hasbro decided to cut down the articulation on the vehicle drivers needs to be taken out back and slapped 50 times.  There have been several times I have bought vehicles mainly for the drivers (see: 30th VAMP among others).  But I'm not spending a dime to get those Happy Meal toys, as Arrow so accurately put it.  And it's a shame, because the driver for the VAMP repaint looks pretty sweet.  Why oh why would you get us spoiled with more and more articulation over the past 5 years and then CUT IT BACK for your major movie line????????
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: ARROW on February 13, 2012, 01:29:32 AM
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And whoever at Hasbro decided to cut down the articulation on the vehicle drivers needs to be taken out back and slapped 50 times.  There have been several times I have bought vehicles mainly for the drivers (see: 30th VAMP among others).  But I'm not spending a dime to get those Happy Meal toys, as Arrow so accurately put it.  And it's a shame, because the driver for the VAMP repaint looks pretty sweet.  Why oh why would you get us spoiled with more and more articulation over the past 5 years and then CUT IT BACK for your major movie line??

Amen, Bruthah!  The 2nd release VAMP's Steel Brigade DELTA driver was the ONLY reason I bought a second POC Vamp--and the figure is largely a re-hash. But that is not really the point is it? It was a cool looking figure AND it was nicely articulated to begin with. Win-win all the way around.
And I'm chewing nails over the fact that the NEW Vamp driver sculpt actually looks like a interesting design......alas, a pity those 5 POAs.

No, a pox upon 5-POAs. >:(

<sigh> I've been vocal on this issue.....and there's other voices out there ( but not here) that seem to be getting tired of it. Its not a personal thing with Hasbro, I acknowledge what they have to do to make a buck. But nothing is going to get me to spend money on these Happy Meal Joes.
And that, folks should be the derisive moniker for these things. ;-D
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: olyeller01 on February 13, 2012, 08:40:29 AM
Considering the fact that Hasbro by this time has a very nice catalog of articulated parts to choose from, I find the cut-down on articulation just inexcusable.  Surely it can't be cheaper to make all new molds for the 5 POA figs than it is to reuse the old molds and have more articulation.

I know Hasbro's reasoning is that the majority of vehicles get displayed with their drivers inside anyway, but so what?  Sad that the Joes made in '82 have more articulation than those in '12.

5 POA = POS
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: Jon S. on February 13, 2012, 09:52:30 AM
Maybe the vehicles will be cheaper as a result?

For a kid, some driver better than no driver.

For an adult, give the driver to a kid.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: SnowHawk on February 13, 2012, 10:45:34 AM
I don't have a problem with the limited articulation of the vehicle drivers.  I've been cleaning all my figures and vehicles lately, and I've realized there are a lot of great figures that are stuck in vehicles, and you never get to see them.  I like to keep the drivers that come with a vehicle, to stay with that vehicle, so sometimes these figures are stuck in there and can't be shown off.

If the vehicle comes with a crappy figure, I don't feel bad about him being stuck behind the driver's seat, never to see the light of day.

The other note I read is "a designer" said that people unhappy about the figures could just head swap and make a quick custom.  I might do this.  If Clutch's head (for example) looks too good to be stuck on a crappy figure, I'll just head swap him out and make a decent figure, then put a random head on the old body to make the vehicle driver.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: Scramble on February 13, 2012, 10:48:09 AM
Maybe the vehicles will be cheaper as a result?

For a kid, some driver better than no driver.

For an adult, give the driver to a kid.

That's where I'm at. Hasbro execs justified that the toys are for kids and articulation isn't important to a kid. I can't relate to that because everything that could move less than a Joe when I was a kid was less than a Joe to me.

On the other hand, I remember going on vacation and getting the Rage and Mobile Battle Bunker on the trip. Neither came with a driver, and it felt like we couldn't do anything with them. Any toy would have enhanced those vehicles on that trip.

If Hasbro has no choice, it's either 5 POA or no driver, I would be much more accepting if the figures were clearly displayed in the box. The combination of figures without articulation and no window display for the first time in years makes the whole thing feel like a bait-and-switch.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: garling23 on February 13, 2012, 07:59:57 PM
not overly impressed with the new line for the retaliation movie.  a few of the figs look good otherwise the new colours and weapons are kind of reminding me of the when the 80's ARAH went to 90's ARAH. 
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: darth cujo on February 13, 2012, 09:53:49 PM
Overall, I think the looks of these figures are better than the RoC figures, but I can't tell how much is actually from the movie and how much is just off-screen. But the looks of the line does feel more GI Joe than the RoC stuff. Having said that, taking away articulation is completely counter to what made GI Joe one of the coolest lines of the 80s. For me it was the articulation and all the gear/vehicles. I still feel that way.

Either way, I'll be skipping 99% of it. Partly because I've reached a saturation point in my joe collecting. I just want to fill the holes in the 25th/30th style, so I'll be getting jynx from SDCC, but nothing else is really a priority. Oh and I think there was a night viper. I may pick up a couple ninjas, as they look pretty sweet and I'm a fan of ninjas in the joe universe. Not ninja FORCE, but ninjas. :) But I'll likely do what I did with RoC, wait for clearance and pick up what I like for $3-$5 each.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: latinjoe22 on February 14, 2012, 01:26:02 PM
Guys, not pissed off with anyone at all as I respect your different point of views. But by saying that we'd pick up the figures we like (or even don't like) when they do end up on clearance, aren't we talking as if the toyline was doomed even before the general public had a chance to judge for themselves? I'm not talking about wishful thinking here, but maybe, maybe we should save the "victory" dance until and if it actually happens? Don't want to disappoint most of you, but I'm actually hoping that not much will end up on clearance, and that kids and parents will go crazy for the Rock and want to follow his adventures as Roadblock, in plastic form or another. I'm also hoping that the Bruce Willis / Die Hard fan base will be looking for their part of the action. I'm also hoping that fans of martial arts movies will find a common point of interest with the director's take on the Ninja theme. I'm also hoping that the fans of the cancelled Wonderwoman TV pilot will be looking forward to see a Lady Jaye in action.

And for those of you who don't know, I don't collect modern era figures but I did pick up most of the first ROC figures when they first arrived in stores mainly because I actually liked the movie and felt that the movie was actually a celebration in itself. Anyways, just my 2 cents and I just wanted to deliver some positivity and the counterweight to some of the comments I'm reading here.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: latinjoe22 on February 14, 2012, 01:28:05 PM
EDIT: Sorry wanted to edit post above and pressed on quote by accident, darn!!!  :-[
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: ARROW on February 14, 2012, 03:17:07 PM
Guys, not pissed off with anyone at all as I respect your different point of views. But by saying that we'd pick up the figures we like (or even don't like) when they do end up on clearance, aren't we talking as if the toyline was doomed even before the general public had a chance to judge for themselves? I'm not talking about wishful thinking here, but maybe, maybe we should save the "victory" dance until and if it actually happens? Don't want to disappoint most of you, but I'm actually hoping that not much will end up on clearance, and that kids and parents will go crazy for the Rock and want to follow his adventures as Roadblock, in plastic form or another. I'm also hoping that the Bruce Willis / Die Hard fan base will be looking for their part of the action. I'm also hoping that fans of martial arts movies will find a common point of interest with the director's take on the Ninja theme. I'm also hoping that the fans of the cancelled Wonderwoman TV pilot will be looking forward to see a Lady Jaye in action.

And for those of you who don't know, I don't collect modern era figures but I did pick up most of the first ROC figures when they first arrived in stores mainly because I actually liked the movie and felt that the movie was actually a celebration in itself. Anyways, just my 2 cents and I just wanted to deliver some positivity and the counterweight to some of the comments I'm reading here.
Oh, make no mistake..........despite my criticisms of some of the toys this time around, I hope the movie and the toy-line does well. I don't wish ill on the brand.
My vocal outburst on this come from my own feelings of disappointment in some of the product, and confusion as to why the politics of the toy marketing industry make what appears to be odd, conflicting dictations about what works and what doesn't when a movie toy-line is involved. My belief is that Pursuit of Cobra was a great template to base GIJOE off of, and a lot of that appears to have been abandoned, yet again, for approaches that didn't work last time. And those Happy Meal Joes........<sigh> Its things like that that have darkened/ diminished what should have been an exciting toy-line.

Its not all negatives, though.

No, rest assured I WILL be buying some of the single carded figures, but I'm going to invoke my righteous finicky traits and cherry-pick as I go. I'll support the line by buying what appeals to me. I'll go see the movie, I'll probably get me a drinking cup, a few movie t-shirts, the Blu-ray when it comes out later on. My own support maybe less/limited compared to someone else, but it'll be there.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: Redmao on February 14, 2012, 03:43:07 PM
Consider the upcoming pilots and drivers with 5 points of articulations as retro chic.
Who knows, hipsters might dig these.  ;D

5 PoA driver figure is still better that a sculpted half-driver stuck in the vehicle.
Positivism!
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: ARROW on February 14, 2012, 04:05:56 PM
Consider the upcoming pilots and drivers with 5 points of articulations as retro chic.
Who knows, hipsters might dig these.  ;D

5 PoA driver figure is still better that a sculpted half-driver stuck in the vehicle.
Positivism!

I remain convinced that all those 2004 McD's Valor vs Venom Happy Meal GIJOES traumatized enough children that they all became My Little Pony collectors. ;-P
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: darth cujo on February 14, 2012, 11:50:28 PM
Guys, not pissed off with anyone at all as I respect your different point of views. But by saying that we'd pick up the figures we like (or even don't like) when they do end up on clearance, aren't we talking as if the toyline was doomed even before the general public had a chance to judge for themselves?
My comment on waiting for clearance is more a comment on the inevitability of most movie toy lines ending up on clearance these days. That, and my level of interest in collecting is reflected in the amount I'm willing to pay right now. I just don't want to spend $10 on GI Joe figures right now. The only thing that gets me to change that are figures like the recent lifeline, sci-fi etc. and some of the PoC figures that I never thought I'd buy, but were amazing and sucked me in. Not much here is going to do that from these pictures.

From what I understand hasbro will be scaling back for this movie, so i don't actually expect nearly the glut we had before. Chances are I will likely have to pay at least sale price for a couple figures if they hook me when i see them in person.

I do hope the movie is good, does well, and the toy line does well, as that usually means more support for the parts of the line that interest me. That's why i like the success of the clone wars, even if i find the show to be of little interest to me. It helps keep star wars as a viable product at retail. A successful joe movie means more chances for figures like Kwinn getting released. :)
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: latinjoe22 on February 15, 2012, 12:12:23 AM
Darth, I know you're cool and I eccho your enthusiasm, but what I said is a response to not only your comment but the fact that I find it represents in general what alot of people here and outside the boards have expressed, in most cases, out of genuine disappointment or disillusion with the Joe franchise.

It still doesn't change the fact that there are individuals out there that wish all the worst to their favorite toyline just to satisfy their individualistic interests. And this is not only true with Gi joe but with everything. It's like wishing to find today a 50$ bill on the streets, but forgetting all at the same time that in order for that to happen, someone must lose it in order to suit that other person's happiness. Okay, that may be too drastic of an example, but it follows the same principle, just not on the same scale and context.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: SnowHawk on February 15, 2012, 09:04:28 AM
Guys, not pissed off with anyone at all as I respect your different point of views. But by saying that we'd pick up the figures we like (or even don't like) when they do end up on clearance, aren't we talking as if the toyline was doomed even before the general public had a chance to judge for themselves? I'm not talking about wishful thinking here, but maybe, maybe we should save the "victory" dance until and if it actually happens? Don't want to disappoint most of you, but I'm actually hoping that not much will end up on clearance, and that kids and parents will go crazy for the Rock and want to follow his adventures as Roadblock, in plastic form or another. I'm also hoping that the Bruce Willis / Die Hard fan base will be looking for their part of the action. I'm also hoping that fans of martial arts movies will find a common point of interest with the director's take on the Ninja theme. I'm also hoping that the fans of the cancelled Wonderwoman TV pilot will be looking forward to see a Lady Jaye in action.

And for those of you who don't know, I don't collect modern era figures but I did pick up most of the first ROC figures when they first arrived in stores mainly because I actually liked the movie and felt that the movie was actually a celebration in itself. Anyways, just my 2 cents and I just wanted to deliver some positivity and the counterweight to some of the comments I'm reading here.
Well said LatinJoe!
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: olyeller01 on February 15, 2012, 10:05:21 AM
I never wait for clearance both because it does the hobby no good and because I've missed out on too many good things when I decided to wait for clearance in the past.

That being said I have no problem with loading up on clearance Joes when they do come along.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: olyeller01 on February 15, 2012, 10:09:07 AM
Of course with what i just said being said, there's not a whole lot of this movie line coming out that I see myself jumping at, so clearance may indeed be one thing that drives my purchasing on this line.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: Pete The Greek on February 15, 2012, 11:11:36 AM
I am glad I gave up being figure completest a few years ago.  Most of this product does nothing for me.  The figure I really want is a SDCC exclusive.  Go figure.   

Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: latinjoe22 on February 15, 2012, 01:02:53 PM
On a side note, I am very much looking forward to the 5POA drivers, as these will go down with me as a tribute to Action Force. If any of you's don't want' em, then you now know one guy who does  ;)
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: NeoDragonKnight on February 15, 2012, 02:59:10 PM
If people don't like them, they can also just put them up on the freebie table next convention.  Hopefully make some kids (and LJoe) happy!
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: latinjoe22 on February 15, 2012, 03:13:39 PM
If people don't like them, they can also just put them up on the freebie table next convention.  Hopefully make some kids (and LJoe) happy!

Thanks Neo: +1 Timbit for thinking of me (when I get new Timbits to give away that is, I think I'm out of them)!
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: darth cujo on February 15, 2012, 08:47:37 PM
Darth, I know you're cool and I eccho your enthusiasm, but what I said is a response to not only your comment but the fact that I find it represents in general what alot of people here and outside the boards have expressed, in most cases, out of genuine disappointment or disillusion with the Joe franchise.
Yeah, there's a lot of negativity in general in the online communities for pretty much any line. I follow fairly closely GI Joe, Masters of the Universe and Star Wars (well, SW very closely), and it amazes me how strongly people react to things and how much hate there can be. Nothing wrong with expressing disappintment and frustration (I hate exclusives afterall!!), but it has to be done within reason and preferably constructively. So yeah, hoping a line you supposedly love fails is counter-productive.

I never wait for clearance both because it does the hobby no good and because I've missed out on too many good things when I decided to wait for clearance in the past.
That being said I have no problem with loading up on clearance Joes when they do come along.
Good points. If you like it, buy it when you see it (assuming it's within your budget)! Waiting for clearance can bite you. But I do vote with my wallet. If I really like something I buy it on the spot and hope I can get my receipt adjusted during a sale. But if I'm luke warm, I'll wait. Or I'll skip it if I don't like it. I don't believe in blindly supporting the line, but yeah, if you like it, buy it!

I am glad I gave up being figure completest a few years ago.  Most of this product does nothing for me.  The figure I really want is a SDCC exclusive.  Go figure.
Yup, giving up the completist mentality (illness ;) ) is quite liberating! I did the same a few years back with star wars, and I now enjoy everything I buy and don't fret over stuff I don't like! My wallet likes me more. :)
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: morgardee on February 16, 2012, 08:36:26 AM
I am glad I gave up being figure completest a few years ago.  Most of this product does nothing for me.  The figure I really want is a SDCC exclusive.  Go figure.

I think I might need to follow suit on that if I buy them locally. If I buy cases from Hal then I guess I'm still being a completest. The SDCC stuff I'm sure I'll get a red Jinx at least. Not sure if I'll have any luck getting the white one.

I sort of want that funskool colour BAT. It's just so goofy it's cool.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: latinjoe22 on February 16, 2012, 12:38:17 PM
I sort of want that funskool colour BAT. It's just so goofy it's cool.

+1 for giving the goofy looking BAT some great love  :)
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: NeoDragonKnight on February 21, 2012, 09:02:18 AM

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I really want the John MaClane, Rock and NYCC exclusive Lady Jaye.  The grey ninja is great too.  The others are kinda meh.


Just wanted to correct myself, Lady Jaye will not be a NYCC exclusive, it was misinformation.  She will be in wave 3.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: crazylegs on February 25, 2012, 12:54:18 PM
One of the figures I really want is the Storm Shadow. I didn't get a chance to get the Renegades Storm Shadow :(

His is AWESOME! Oh well...

It looks like this version will be a awesome as well.  Anyone get the Renegades Storm Shadow? Tell me about him please....He's like going for $45+ on Ebay.

:(
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: ARROW on February 25, 2012, 04:33:24 PM
One of the figures I really want is the Storm Shadow. I didn't get a chance to get the Renegades Storm Shadow :(

His is AWESOME! Oh well...

It looks like this version will be a awesome as well.  Anyone get the Renegades Storm Shadow? Tell me about him please....He's like going for $45+ on Ebay.

:(

The figure is very nice. I bought mine from one of my local comic shops--I was Johnny-on-the-spot to get him because they tend to post their weekly incoming shipments (via Comixology) and that tipped me off. Mark-up was reasonable, I think $11.99 was what I paid. Oddly enough, they had a couple of SS stick around on the pegs for about a week, but right when I was going to go back and get him--they sold the last one. Don't get excited--this was back in January or whenever--they are long gone now. Sorry.

The figure itself is great--the review on General-joes spells out everything, and I agree with their review. The variety of tiny parts is the only "drawback"--but having them ups the appeal of the figure. The hands are a brilliant design--they can hold anything in the arsenal that SS comes with and many items can be held in somewhat unique grips. Yes, he can hold two of the throwing stars in a single hand, between the fingers. Sculpt is detailed and POAs work excellently throughout.

Look, I know you are probably stewing in the juice right now, but my GUESS is we'll see this figure released again, likely before the movie line hits. Walmart is just starting to stock the wave just before this, so its possible they might get shipments with this assortment in it. Those Ashiko bikes and HISS Scouts are plentiful as heck in my area--a "major retailer" has about 2 dozen of each on their shelves. Each type--and just at one store. The other stores in my area, likely also have this stuff, and those two vehicles were supposedly limited runs. Balderdash, I think.
So, I'd avoid paying a premium for SS--he's worth it, but if you'd regret forking over the cash, I think you'll get a shot at regular retail pricing some time soon.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: crazylegs on February 26, 2012, 01:22:46 PM
Thanks Arrow. Really appreciate the run down. There no joes in the walmart here, and there are no comic shops where i live. The last joes walmart had on the pegs where poc last christmas. All I see is Star Wars stuff. Wow you have the bushsido's there doing nothing. How much are they?
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: ARROW on February 26, 2012, 02:38:25 PM
Thanks Arrow. Really appreciate the run down. There no joes in the walmart here, and there are no comic shops where i live. The last joes walmart had on the pegs where poc last christmas. All I see is Star Wars stuff. Wow you have the bushsido's there doing nothing. How much are they?

If you are asking about the Cycle-Armor sets--they were $21-$22 and change each. I'm passing on them myself, as the reviews of them soured me on both. I was expecting better from them.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: darth cujo on February 26, 2012, 04:12:53 PM
Look, I know you are probably stewing in the juice right now, but my GUESS is we'll see this figure released again, likely before the movie line hits. Walmart is just starting to stock the wave just before this, so its possible they might get shipments with this assortment in it.
I'm not holding my breath on this wave showing up at Can retail, but I really would be surprised if he doesn't show up in a new wave sometime after the movie figures hit. Aesthetically he's fit in with the retalliation figures, he's one of the main characters of retaliation (at least from what I can tell), and hasbro has to know how high in demand this figure is. He may not come with all the same accessories (ala steel brigade rerelease), but I'd guess he'll show up again in some assortment.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: ARROW on February 26, 2012, 04:21:20 PM
Look, I know you are probably stewing in the juice right now, but my GUESS is we'll see this figure released again, likely before the movie line hits. Walmart is just starting to stock the wave just before this, so its possible they might get shipments with this assortment in it.
I'm not holding my breath on this wave showing up at Can retail, but I really would be surprised if he doesn't show up in a new wave sometime after the movie figures hit. Aesthetically he's fit in with the retalliation figures, he's one of the main characters of retaliation (at least from what I can tell), and hasbro has to know how high in demand this figure is. He may not come with all the same accessories (ala steel brigade rerelease), but I'd guess he'll show up again in some assortment.
Agreed. It would be an incredibly bizarre strategy to have such a popular and high-profile character be so short-packed, and my assumption is it'll be more heavily packed in a future assortment. But then, the toy industry does have its off-days sometimes.....
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: pdaat on February 27, 2012, 04:39:14 AM
Look, I know you are probably stewing in the juice right now, but my GUESS is we'll see this figure released again, likely before the movie line hits. Walmart is just starting to stock the wave just before this, so its possible they might get shipments with this assortment in it.
I'm not holding my breath on this wave showing up at Can retail, but I really would be surprised if he doesn't show up in a new wave sometime after the movie figures hit. Aesthetically he's fit in with the retalliation figures, he's one of the main characters of retaliation (at least from what I can tell), and hasbro has to know how high in demand this figure is. He may not come with all the same accessories (ala steel brigade rerelease), but I'd guess he'll show up again in some assortment.
Agreed. It would be an incredibly bizarre strategy to have such a popular and high-profile character be so short-packed, and my assumption is it'll be more heavily packed in a future assortment. But then, the toy industry does have its off-days sometimes.....
There's been enough fan outcry over this I think it is a pretty safe bet we'll see a repack.  Agreed.
Title: Re: First look at G.I. Joe Retaliation figures
Post by: Redmao on February 27, 2012, 07:03:35 AM
People said to Hasbro that they were tired of Storm Shadow. The last two figures (Desert and Spin Kick) were not very popular, so Hasbro probably decided to play it safe and packed Renegade SS one per case. They even decided to repack Ripcord in Wave 4 instead of SS. Of course they decided to play safe when they make the ultimate version of the character, go figure.

On a happier note, the Renegade Stormy mold will be used for 3 different figures in the Retaliation line.