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Title: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: martin-montreal on November 19, 2012, 08:42:59 PM
After Marauderinc.com using Kickstarter.com, now we have board member Falcom (from Yojoe) using it to promote his new Shooter variant:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/790108683/gi-joe-arah-figure-commando (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/790108683/gi-joe-arah-figure-commando)

See here original thread: http://forums.yojoe.com/customs-fan-creations/88646-project-o-ring-shooter.html (http://forums.yojoe.com/customs-fan-creations/88646-project-o-ring-shooter.html)




(http://forums.yojoe.com/attachments/customs-fan-creations/8091d1351576591-project-o-ring-shooter-trooperfinal.jpg)

(http://forums.yojoe.com/attachments/customs-fan-creations/8081d1351576591-project-o-ring-shooter-shooterfinal2.jpg)



(http://forums.yojoe.com/attachments/customs-fan-creations/8101d1351576591-project-o-ring-shooter-amberfinal.jpg)
What do you think? Personally, I love these 3!
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Sundance on November 20, 2012, 02:10:44 AM
i wouldn't mind one of all 3, but i bet they're expensive.
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Oreobuilder on November 20, 2012, 08:28:11 AM
Cool project. Personally, I'm out of O-ring, prefering modern figures myself, but hopefully O-ring lovers can see this realised.

OB
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Sundance on November 20, 2012, 03:14:20 PM
that looks like a custom torso and head, but the arms and legs look like they could be from the 1983 v1.5 series...
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: martin-montreal on November 20, 2012, 08:22:49 PM
i wouldn't mind one of all 3, but i bet they're expensive.

$10 each.
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: martin-montreal on November 20, 2012, 08:23:34 PM
Cool project. Personally, I'm out of O-ring, prefering modern figures myself, but hopefully O-ring lovers can see this realised.

OB

I love o-ring... so I'm really happy!!!!
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: martin-montreal on November 20, 2012, 08:28:31 PM
that looks like a custom torso and head, but the arms and legs look like they could be from the 1983 v1.5 series...

Everything is original. The fig showed in the pictures will be produced by Falcone no matter what. The Kickstarter is for another variant on the same mold.
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Sundance on November 21, 2012, 02:05:39 AM
$10 each?! wow. can you buy some even if you don't contribute to the kickstarter?
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: martin-montreal on November 21, 2012, 07:16:40 PM
$10 each?! wow. can you buy some even if you don't contribute to the kickstarter?

Yes, these 3 are not related to Kickstarter. These 3 will be made no matter what happen with Kickstarter. Kickstarter is for two other variants: 1. generic commando,  2. Arctic ops figure

Since my English is not perfect, I will copy-paste an update of his project:

Quote from: Falcone
I've got two things here.  First is very disheartening news, at least to me.  I am not sure how to deal with it.  First thing, this may be the last time I work with this manufacturer as they cannot follow simple instructions.  They continue to acknowledge directions I give, but then do not do them.  Because of this there are two glaring problems with this figure, after tooling has been completed.

One is the waist piece.  I'm not sure what or why, but they changed it while making the tooling.  It wasn't perfect to begin with but they completely reverted it back into a diaper crotch design.  Aesthetically it doesn't look good, and functionally it will make sitting the figure down difficult. 

The other problem which to me is much more severe is the arms.  I've been assured for a while that the swivel joint would be added to the figure. Now that the tooling is complete, it is still not there.  The figure is now a straight arm figure.  That too me is unacceptable.

This leaves me at somewhat of a cross roads.  I would either have to pay to have the prototype reworked and then repay the tooling cost which I don't have the funds for and then wait another month for it to finish. Or proceed as is with two glaring problems looking at me.  At this point I really do not know how to proceed.

With that said the second thing I want to talk about probably no longer looks attractive.  I put up a one week Kickstarter to test interest in repaints of this figure. The first is a generic commando.  The next I will be doing will be an arctic ops figure.

To clarify, the Kickstarter is for additional repaints of the figure.  The first 3 (Shooter, Joe Trooper, and Amber) will be happening regardless of what happens with Kickstarter.  I'malso only doing 1 week Kickstarters because I do not have much time to work with.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/790108683/gi-joe-arah-figure-commando (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/790108683/gi-joe-arah-figure-commando)

Here is a picture of the first test shot of the figure from the tooling. You can see the two glaring problems, as well some of the smaller ones which I was expecting to have.  I guess the silver lining is that Shooter was around 4-5 on my to do list.  I elected to not do my more desired figures first so that I could work out the kinks to make the future, more desired, figures perfect.

(http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo322/capt_falcone/firsttestshot.jpg)


So, it's a little disappointing about the waist and the straight arms...  :'(
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Sundance on November 22, 2012, 02:06:12 AM
yeah, i was looking at the YJ thread and saw that news. it is disappointing.
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Falcone on November 24, 2012, 08:57:36 PM
Thanks to those who have contributed to Kickstarter.  Though I am actually happy that it didn't become funded.  I have to work the kinks out on the figure before I'd be willing to take preorder money.  Once the figure problems are worked out the Kickstarter project will begin again, but will have multiple repaints instead of just one, but the goal will be higher.

As has been pointed out, there will be three different figures produced no matter what.  Shooter, Joe Trooper, and Amber will be released.
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Falcone on December 11, 2012, 01:46:45 AM
Since the tooling is now being corrected...

I've put up a Kickstarter for 5 repaints of Shooter.  This does not include Shooter itself or the Joe Trooper and Amber repaints.  If you are interested in those three figure you will have to wait until their release to buy them. 

Each $10 contribution will get you one of the 5 figures pictured in the project.  You can choose which figures you want, there is no limit to any one figure.  Production of Shooter is beginning very shortly.  So this project is only 2 weeks long, as I have to make a decision on whether to do these figure before production ends.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/790108683/gi-joe-arah-figure-shooter-repaints (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/790108683/gi-joe-arah-figure-shooter-repaints)
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Sundance on December 11, 2012, 02:08:35 AM
i would like one of the Shooter figures and one of the Amber. Are they still $10 too?
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Falcone on December 11, 2012, 02:20:00 AM
i would like one of the Shooter figures and one of the Amber. Are they still $10 too?

Yes, those figures will be $10 each once they are released.
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Sundance on December 11, 2012, 11:56:47 AM
btw, what accessories are the figures going to have? if any.
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Falcone on December 23, 2012, 02:48:39 PM
The repaint project is 2/3 funded with 24 hours to go.  I've added Shooter as one of the contribution rewards.  So if you would like to "preorder" Shooter, Amber, or Joe Trooper you can do so with a $10 contribution to the Kickstarter.  Also, there is no limit on how many figures or how many of each figure you can choose as rewards.

btw, what accessories are the figures going to have? if any.
The figure will come with a rifle, but it is just a throw away pack-in.
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: martin-montreal on December 24, 2012, 08:30:10 PM
I will have Shooter, Joe Trooper, Amber, Scarlett and Quarrel... Woohoo!

Now, my only hope is... quality!!!
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Sundance on December 25, 2012, 01:48:01 AM
I'm waiting for pix of the finished figures, but may go for Shooter and a Joe Trooper, I think.
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Falcone on December 25, 2012, 09:21:27 PM
First off, Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, or Happy *insert your beliefs here*!

A big thanks to all those who contributed to make these repaints happen.  And thank you to those who wanted to contribute but could not for various reasons.  This has been a huge boost to the project overall.  When building all new tooling for a figure it is vital to get the most use out of that tooling.  Because I can now produce additional repaints there is a much greater chance of the project making it's money back which means more new figures in the future.  And that is my goal, to continue to provide new O-ring figures to fill all the empty holes Hasbro had left in people's collections when they stopped producing O-rings.  By helping this project you have in term helped yourselves and helped the community as a whole.

All contributors should have received a survey from Kickstarter.  I guess you cannot choose multiple choices in the survey so please note which figures and how many in the multiples section.

For those who were late or unable to contribute.  And those who may want more than what you "preordered".  All 8 of these figures will be available in ample supply once production has completed.

News on the production front.  Full mass production is set to begin this week.  Below are test shots of the finalized tooling.  We were unable to fix the waist (I hope to do so at a later time and provide them for free to those who purchased), however the swivel arms have been completed and the figure has swivel wrists as well.  There still has been some question, yes the figures will be fully painted in factory.
(http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo322/capt_falcone/P1120219_zpse03acda1.jpg)
(http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo322/capt_falcone/P1120207_zps8e04704b.jpg)
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Falcone on December 25, 2012, 09:22:16 PM
I will have Shooter, Joe Trooper, Amber, Scarlett and Quarrel... Woohoo!

Now, my only hope is... quality!!!

Quality should be on par with newer figures released by the Black Major, if you've ever handled them or know of people who have.
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Falcone on January 08, 2013, 12:28:01 AM
This isn't really an update.  The manufacturer sent me some pictures of hand painted samples of each figure.  They are completely hand painted.  They are testing out colors for the painted parts.  The final production parts will of course be molded in the base colors and the painted parts will be applied with paint masks.  The colors are not final and some of them will be corrected like Trooper's shirt color.  I thought I would share the first examples of the figures colored.
(http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo322/capt_falcone/P1120358_zps5d56ccd0.jpg)
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Sundance on January 08, 2013, 02:09:51 AM
will we have to swap out the heads ourselves if we want to use the helmeted head?
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Falcone on January 08, 2013, 03:30:19 AM
Yes, they will need to be swapped out, but the figure is a simple back screw design.
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Sundance on January 08, 2013, 09:16:46 AM
i noticed on the Yo Joe thread, you mentioned that there were other figures you wanted to produce, any chance of knowing who or is that unwraps?
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Falcone on January 08, 2013, 01:51:10 PM
i noticed on the Yo Joe thread, you mentioned that there were other figures you wanted to produce, any chance of knowing who or is that unwraps?

That's under wraps for the time being.
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Sundance on January 08, 2013, 02:20:59 PM
fair enough
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Sundance on March 09, 2013, 06:05:57 AM
any news?
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: martin-montreal on March 09, 2013, 06:26:19 AM
not yet...
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Falcone on March 11, 2013, 08:52:48 AM
More info on the Legion XIV Facebook page.
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/483806_501868633203177_1056312016_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Sundance on March 11, 2013, 10:50:52 AM
wicked.
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: morgardee on March 11, 2013, 06:53:43 PM
I love it. The white proto type would look super sweet with a nice red maple leaf in the middle of the chest.  ;)
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: martin-montreal on March 11, 2013, 07:58:40 PM
I like it... but not their waist  :'(
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Falcone on March 12, 2013, 09:20:40 AM
There have been a lot of questions so hopefully this post will answer them all.

Accessories
Each figure will come with two heads.  One with helmet and one without.  They will each come with a rifle as well.

Compatibility
These figures won't be straight compatible with o-ring Joes.  There will need to be some modifying to add parts to these figures or use these figure's parts on Joes.  It should be close though so the modifications should only need to be minor.

Waist Piece
Nobody dislikes the waist piece more than I do.  Chalk it up to growing pains.  I'm making no promises, but if this figure and my next plan figure are well enough supported I will look into making a replacement waist in the future.

Construction
These figures will not have holes in the feet for stands and the hole in the back will more than likely not be the right size for Joe backpacks.  The figures do have swivel wrists though.

Order Information
As soon as I have these figures in hand I will be shipping them out to those who contributed to the Kickstarter project.  If you did not contribute or if you did and would like extras I will have a booth at Joecon where they will be available at $10 each.  After Joecon I will be adding the figures to my online store and on to eBay.
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Sundance on March 12, 2013, 09:30:54 AM
i have two questions: 1. do they fit in ARAH era vehicles - specifically can they sit in the front seat of a Dragonfly? 2. is the rifle compatible with ARAH figures?
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: morgardee on March 12, 2013, 06:38:20 PM
If you did not contribute or if you did and would like extras I will have a booth at Joecon where they will be available at $10 each. 

Cool. Just another reason to be excited! It's going to be awesome this year.
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: martin-montreal on March 12, 2013, 09:37:15 PM
Overall, I like them. And, I'm really impressed by the result someone (alone) can achieve while Hasbro and the club are not making the o-ring figs anymore.

If you keep making these, I would suggest:
Can't wait to get mine :-)
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: morgardee on March 14, 2013, 07:15:41 AM
Overall, I like them. And, I'm really impressed by the result someone (alone) can achieve while Hasbro and the club are not making the o-ring figs anymore.

If you keep making these, I would suggest:
  • Not making weapon. Marauder is already making very nice weapon... for really cheap. The money you save there can be invest on plastic quality, design, new crotch, etc.
  • Making back hole (for backpack) and feet hole for compatibility purposes
Can't wait to get mine :-)

The holes in the feet aren't a big deal for me. One of the Joe Canuck figures had no holes in his feet as the legs were custom made cast jobs. I drilled them in no problem. As this is a 1 man show and he probably needs to watch his production costs.

The hole in the back would be nice if possible and I agree 100% about the weapons.
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Falcone on March 14, 2013, 08:17:23 AM
The next figure will be 100% compatible with Joes, will have back and feet holes, and will have a proper waist piece.  These issues are all being rectified with the in progress prototype for figure 2.  For weapons, the weapon didn't add anything to cost.  It was just a throw in.  I have a line of weapons out right now just as Marauder does.  I'm planning on releasing Shooter's rifle in my next wave.  I have a 3D model for it so it will be much higher quality than the hand sculpted one with Shooter.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=502626456460728&set=a.502625319794175.1073741825.423504674372907&type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=502626456460728&set=a.502625319794175.1073741825.423504674372907&type=3&theater)
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Sundance on March 14, 2013, 11:33:58 AM
i have two questions: 1. do they fit in ARAH era vehicles - specifically can they sit in the front seat of a Dragonfly? 2. is the rifle compatible with ARAH figures?

quoted for answers, please.
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Sundance on June 06, 2013, 04:41:51 PM
any news on release of these?
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Falcone on June 06, 2013, 11:20:52 PM
i have two questions: 1. do they fit in ARAH era vehicles - specifically can they sit in the front seat of a Dragonfly? 2. is the rifle compatible with ARAH figures?

quoted for answers, please.

I do not own the Dragonfly so cannot test it.  At some point during production the figures gained a few millimeters in height so she is pretty tall.  The rifle is just a throw away add on done at the factory.  It's under scaled and not very good.

Most of the Kickstarter figures have been shipped out to people.  Shipping has taken longer for me to do than I thought it would.
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: Sundance on June 07, 2013, 01:58:45 AM
so, other people who want to buy them gotta wait?
Title: Re: Kickstarter.com loves GI Joes...
Post by: martin-montreal on July 02, 2013, 05:34:33 PM
I made a review here: http://www.joecanuck.com/jc/index.php?topic=6808.0 (http://www.joecanuck.com/jc/index.php?topic=6808.0)