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Title: Amazon Resolute Comic
Post by: Pete The Greek on November 22, 2009, 11:43:22 PM
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http://www.gijoemovie.com/amazon/flagg/ ... Amazon.pdf (http://www.gijoemovie.com/amazon/flagg/resolut/bazooka/11309/GIJoe_Comic_Amazon.pdf)
Title: Re: Amazon Resolute Comic
Post by: Jay on November 23, 2009, 01:54:56 AM
Odd...

There appears to be an old Marvel comic hidden beneath the layers of the new one.
Title: Re: Amazon Resolute Comic
Post by: Kronz on November 23, 2009, 03:39:11 AM
What the heck does that have to do with Resolute? Hasbro's being weird again or what? Did they just dig up something old and unused and slap the word Resolute on it?
Title: Re: Amazon Resolute Comic
Post by: canprime on November 23, 2009, 07:13:27 AM
Great story idea.  Really dumb execution.  Overall this was a great story, but someone once again trying to add another "badass" trooper level is dumb.   Shoehorning in a character from another era is worse.
Title: Re: Amazon Resolute Comic
Post by: Raptor on November 23, 2009, 09:24:56 AM
I feel an effort was made there to create a real story. At least they answered a good question, which was "how can they afford do kill off their elite troops like that." The fact that they provided a plausible answer to that put this head and shoulders above a lot of the comic pack comics.

It's resolute because resolute is a far more brutal universe than prime.

:chicken:
Title: Re: Amazon Resolute Comic
Post by: akpayne on November 23, 2009, 09:55:41 AM
It was OK, but nothing great.
About the same as the other Joe one shot comics that have come out recently.
Title: Re: Amazon Resolute Comic
Post by: Redmao on November 23, 2009, 11:19:20 AM
The only resolute link I saw was the new vest with the shoulder pads that the CG is given aboard the chopper.
Title: Re: Amazon Resolute Comic
Post by: Pete The Greek on November 23, 2009, 01:52:18 PM
Quote from: "Jay"
Odd...

There appears to be an old Marvel comic hidden beneath the layers of the new one.

I noticed that as well.
Title: Re: Amazon Resolute Comic
Post by: Jay on November 23, 2009, 03:26:53 PM
Quote from: "Kronz"
What the heck does that have to do with Resolute? Hasbro's being weird again or what? Did they just dig up something old and unused and slap the word Resolute on it?
None of the "Resolute" comic books really had anything to do with Resolute. It's either because a) Hasbro just decided to slap the Resolute tag on these at the last minute to help promote it or b) because Larry Hama wasn't really granted access to the production material of Resolute.
They're all more or less set in the "Marvel" GIJoe universe Larry created.

It did remind me of the old Action Force comic where Baron Ironblood "trained" his Red Shadow recruits, though. That was pretty cool.
But yeah, adding another level on top of the CGs was kind of iffy, especially since thanks to Hasbro there's already Immortals, Commanders and Royal Guards.
Title: Re: Amazon Resolute Comic
Post by: canprime on November 23, 2009, 08:27:47 PM
So what are we looking at here as figures?

I can safely say I think one of the figures from this "could'a been" comic pack is a Resolute Cobra Trooper body (red) with a CG head. 

The question is what was the second?  I would be dumbfounded if it was an Iron Klaw Trooper, but considering there was no other "character" in the comic, who else could it have been?  It might have been an interesting idea, and the execution might have been something to behold.  However I can't get the "extreme" show out of my head every time I see that head.

Looking at it closer, the Iron Klaw Trooper would probably have a new head and the shoulder pad/straps would be like most "add-ons" that could be removed.  The hands could be fully painted Viper (ugh I know), the body could be any number of characters, and the legs I can only think of HISS Drivers as a close facsimile.
Title: Re: Amazon Resolute Comic
Post by: Jay on November 23, 2009, 08:34:20 PM
That comic pack was pretty obviously intended to come with the "Iron Klaw Trooper".
Title: Re: Amazon Resolute Comic
Post by: Editor on November 24, 2009, 12:16:57 AM
Is it just me, or did the story seem like it ended too abruptly? I wonder it there is another page that's missing.
Title: Re: Amazon Resolute Comic
Post by: dodge822 on November 24, 2009, 12:36:22 AM
Quote from: "Editor"
Is it just me, or did the story seem like it ended too abruptly? I wonder it there is another page that's missing.

i agree, to abrupt.
Title: Re: Amazon Resolute Comic
Post by: canprime on November 24, 2009, 12:20:57 PM
So yeah, it was supposed to be an Iron Klaw figure.

Here is the link on theterrordrome.com to the prototype:

http://www.theterrordrome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=4738 (http://http://www.theterrordrome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=4738)
Title: Re: Amazon Resolute Comic
Post by: Scramble on November 24, 2009, 02:43:23 PM
I'm surprised by the negative reactions. I was really along for that ride. Technically there was already a Cobra elite trooper called Claw (http://http://www.yojoe.com/action/02/claws.shtml). Heck, that figure even looks like Iron Claw. This one comic ties the ARAH, Extreme, and GvC eras together, with nothing saying it could not fit somewhere in the Resolute universe.
Title: Re: Amazon Resolute Comic
Post by: canprime on November 24, 2009, 04:54:57 PM
Quote from: "Scramble"
I'm surprised by the negative reactions. I was really along for that ride. Technically there was already a Cobra elite trooper called Claw (http://http://www.yojoe.com/action/02/claws.shtml). Heck, that figure even looks like Iron Claw. This one comic ties the ARAH, Extreme, and GvC eras together, with nothing saying it could not fit somewhere in the Resolute universe.

My personal opinion is that Resolute is more "mature" and quite frankly Iron Klaw is just too far out and connected to a weaker JOE version. 

I would have preferred a comic pack with the Resolute style CG and a Cobra Trooper.  Thus switching up the comic pack, keeping it Resolute and making for a more realistic story (testing a trooper to get to the elite CG).
Title: Re: Amazon Resolute Comic
Post by: Jay on November 24, 2009, 05:21:16 PM
Quote from: "canprime"
I would have preferred a comic pack with the Resolute style CG and a Cobra Trooper. 
But like I said, nothing about the comic pack was planned to be Resolute. The Resolute tag got slapped on after the fact, just like Storm Shadow vs Tunnel Rat and Destro vs Shockwave.
Title: Re: Amazon Resolute Comic
Post by: Kronz on November 24, 2009, 11:59:22 PM
I dunno, I guess I am just really unsure when continuities overlap with no reason. It's never occurred to me that Resolute could be a place where multiple universes overlap. Even as a little kid I'd have never had any off-scale figures playing with my Joes, not even correct scale figures from other lines were kosher with me. So that's probably coloring my thinking about this. Iron Klaw is a cool toy, but not canon GI Joe to me, and definitely not from the same universe as the CG in my mind. If there was some explanation about the Resolut-o-verse being some kind of Crisis on Infinite Earths situation, then fine, but just jumping in with a IK lookalike, I dunno, made me confused.

If I'd gotten this with a toy in printed form I'd be more likely to have "got" the point. Without a toy in the right scale, I just don't click with IK or similar in ARAH/Resolute.
Title: Re: Amazon Resolute Comic
Post by: Jay on November 25, 2009, 01:31:24 AM
Quote from: "Kronz"
I dunno, I guess I am just really unsure when continuities overlap with no reason. It's never occurred to me that Resolute could be a place where multiple universes overlap. Even as a little kid I'd have never had any off-scale figures playing with my Joes, not even correct scale figures from other lines were kosher with me. So that's probably coloring my thinking about this. Iron Klaw is a cool toy, but not canon GI Joe to me, and definitely not from the same universe as the CG in my mind. If there was some explanation about the Resolut-o-verse being some kind of Crisis on Infinite Earths situation, then fine, but just jumping in with a IK lookalike, I dunno, made me confused.

If I'd gotten this with a toy in printed form I'd be more likely to have "got" the point. Without a toy in the right scale, I just don't click with IK or similar in ARAH/Resolute.
But the comic pretty clearly establishes the Iron Klaw Trooper as not being the Iron Klaw from GIJoe Extreme, but rather as a new Cobra trooper type that just happens to ressemble Iron Klaw from Extreme.

It's called a design carry-over. I guess since GIJoe's never really had that before, unlike Transformers, it's normal for it to be confusing.
Title: Re: Amazon Resolute Comic
Post by: morgardee on November 25, 2009, 08:50:36 AM
Quote from: "Jay"
Quote from: "canprime"
I would have preferred a comic pack with the Resolute style CG and a Cobra Trooper. 
But like I said, nothing about the comic pack was planned to be Resolute. The Resolute tag got slapped on after the fact, just like Storm Shadow vs Tunnel Rat and Destro vs Shockwave.

Where did you hear this?
Title: Re: Amazon Resolute Comic
Post by: canprime on November 25, 2009, 10:40:55 AM
Quote from: "Jay"
Quote from: "Kronz"
I dunno, I guess I am just really unsure when continuities overlap with no reason. It's never occurred to me that Resolute could be a place where multiple universes overlap. Even as a little kid I'd have never had any off-scale figures playing with my Joes, not even correct scale figures from other lines were kosher with me. So that's probably coloring my thinking about this. Iron Klaw is a cool toy, but not canon GI Joe to me, and definitely not from the same universe as the CG in my mind. If there was some explanation about the Resolut-o-verse being some kind of Crisis on Infinite Earths situation, then fine, but just jumping in with a IK lookalike, I dunno, made me confused.

If I'd gotten this with a toy in printed form I'd be more likely to have "got" the point. Without a toy in the right scale, I just don't click with IK or similar in ARAH/Resolute.
But the comic pretty clearly establishes the Iron Klaw Trooper as not being the Iron Klaw from GIJoe Extreme, but rather as a new Cobra trooper type that just happens to ressemble Iron Klaw from Extreme.

It's called a design carry-over. I guess since GIJoe's never really had that before, unlike Transformers, it's normal for it to be confusing.

I understand what you are saying, but I think most people are saying that they don't like the choice. It may not have been a  good idea when Hasbro uses characters from the "dark" days of JOE.  TFs generally carry over popular designs from mostly G1, and that is why it works.   Matt Trakker, a popular character from another line completely, was a popular choice.  A character from a not popular version of Joe, not so much.  Add on the story which makes this character "super badass" above the supposed already elite and it just doesn't work as well for me personally.

Nothing wrong with doing it, but I would have preferred other charcters.