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Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: Pete The Greek on February 19, 2005, 05:38:20 PM
I had a hunch this Sigma line was going to be bad new for 12" and  3 3/4" collectors.

According the mastercollector newsletter (somebody copied the info on Joesightings thread (http://http://www.joesightings.com/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=003561)),
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As many of you may or may not know by now, after this Spring, the 12” and 3 3/4” versions of G.I. Joe have been put into retirement for a while. Hasbro is creating a new version of G.I. Joe in an 8” size called G.I. JOE SIGMA SIX


This means only one thing for me....................my wallet and my completist disease goes in retirement as well Hasbro.  Unless, Hasbro sprinkles us with a TRU exclusive pack once in a while with the Sigma line, I am done collecting.  The question is if the 3 3/4 joes" break is a long one (say like the NHL lockout), I may never come back to collecting. You your going to have to win me over.  Close out the lights, the party is over me. It was fun while it lasted.
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: Agent_Loop on February 19, 2005, 06:22:02 PM
They might as well...With the new Marvel 4" figures entering the 1:18 world, as well as other licences like the Evil Dead, Batman/Microman, and Aliens and the USMC, some collectors' wallets need a break from GIJoe repaints.
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: morgardee on February 19, 2005, 06:26:17 PM
I agree. I'm done when they end it in the fall. I'll watch the cartoon if we get it here and maybe even pick up one of the figures if for some reason Canada gets them but there is no way I'm getting this on line.
There is only  so many times I can be pulled back in. Sheryl and I are talking about having kids, so this will end it for me. If they bring back Joe 4 or 5 years from now, will it be a watered down version of what we had in the 80's or a watered down version of what we have know, which is an already watered down version from the 80's?
Besides, these not being in Canada has gotten to the point where I'm starting to get offended.
Come the fall I'm gonna have a lot more spare money I think.
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: custo on February 19, 2005, 07:04:21 PM
I don't care if I get in shit for this, if Hasbro cance;'s the 3 3/4inch line I only got one thing to say

FUCK YOU HASBRO
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: Pete The Greek on February 19, 2005, 07:24:51 PM
I didn't know swearing filters were on lol. But F U Hasbro is correct in my books.  I need that bar of soap has Hasbro just used me and other collectors for the past few years.

I think Star Wars and the upcoming movie has something tio do with this.
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: Stealth Viper on February 19, 2005, 10:18:27 PM
Ah for fuck sakes.
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: Spillspleen on February 20, 2005, 12:01:01 AM
fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck...I am no longer hungry!!! :|
Title: hmm
Post by: Colonel Abernathy on February 20, 2005, 11:22:55 AM
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I'm kinda glad the 3 3/4" stuff will be finished for an undetermined period of time.  I bought a second shelving unit for my collection and it's still not enough!  I have too many toys...and I haven't even bought like 10% of what's been available 3 3/4"-wise since Joes have become available at retail again in 1997.  I guess there's some collectors here who collect for completion (or near completion)...me, I'm finding that the more figures I get, the less I care about them.  When I was a kid I had 4 Joes.  That's it!  And I played with them like crazy.  Loved 'em to death!  Now I have over 150 and they collect dust.

Don't get me wrong, I am still a big 3 3/4" Joefan.  I don't think I'll ever get really sick of collecting/displaying/reading comics/watching 'toon episodes.  But being forced by Hasbro to stop buying their plastic army figures for a few years isn't all bad :thumbsup:
Title: Re: hmm
Post by: Pete The Greek on February 20, 2005, 12:27:22 PM
Quote from: ""Colonel Abernathy""
I guess there's some collectors here who collect for completion (or near completion)...me, I'm finding that the more figures I get, the less I care about them.


Well then your a "completist" like me (and Stealth Viper was in that boat until Hasbro drowned him last year lol).  I am looking forward to a break as well. I was burned out a couple times in the past years to keep up.  Honestly, it wasn't fun and didn't enjoy the figures I got.   I am free.  

I mentioned this on joesightings and I pounced on by saying wave 7 was released way to early (wave 6 came out in December).  There was way too much product being released in short periods of time.  What does Hasbro expect the collector to do...buy them all at once?  It's their fault as they took out the vasoline and took it from Walmart and Target to get more product in to beef up their quarterly reports for the stocks.            

But what will this mean for future convention items from Mastercollector?  If Savage is committed on making those items, that would be more than enough to satisfy my GI JOE collecting bug.
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: night force cynic on February 20, 2005, 03:28:12 PM
At least with the main line ending, I'll be able to DEFINITELY afford the convention figure set (it was looking iffy there).  

No way I'm pulling out of this hobby.  NEVER.  I'll just not have to get online so many times a day since the boards wn't be as active...  or a few less reasons to hit the stores around here, but I'm staying right where I am: in a hobby and online community that I love.  

Hasbro, I'm not gonna go tell you to fuck yourselves, I don't think this is THAT big a deal (bullshit, yeah, but not lifethreatening)...  You jokers are just saving me a lot of money now.   And if I never find that damnable wave 6 here, I guess that'll be a little more saved.   :thumbsup:

you guys could make me an 8" S6 Zartan thougj, ya know.
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: Redmao on February 20, 2005, 07:29:34 PM
Everybody is pissed at Hasbro :) So am I! They just put my favorite toy of all time in the closet to bring these new 8 inch posers to the shelves and the tv screen!!!

Hey! More money in my pockets...I might focus on microman instead of gi joe ...dang! I hate this.

I thought that they'd only stop the rah 12 inch line but with all the posts I read, it seems like old original 12 inch joe is getting the closet as well. WHY?! He's the first action figure...beaten by some animated posers...what is the world coming to?
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: custo on February 20, 2005, 07:34:31 PM
Well after digesting this news for a bit, I feel better.  

Like many people have pointed out hasbro has been releasing way too much product too fast, I didn't even get any wave 6, just skipped it for wave 7.

So this will do some good for my wallet. If they bring the line back in a year or two great.

Hopefully most people will stick around the forums though, the online community is a lot of what made this hobby great.

Lastly there's one thing I'm surprised no one mentioned yet; if Hasbro pulls the 3/3/4 line, the the major retailers are going to discount their stock hardcore to free up the space, which means CHEAP VEHICLES!
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: Madman on February 20, 2005, 09:07:58 PM
I was totally shocked to see this. I've been away from the boards for a few days and I come back to see all this commotion. 8 pages on joecustoms.

If this is the direction Hasbro wants or feels it needs to take with joes, then this is what they'll do. Of course, collectors won't agree.
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: Jon S. on February 20, 2005, 11:11:09 PM
The 3 3/4" figures will be back in a couple years. This is G.I. Joe Extreme all over again. With the Transformers: Cybertron also looking very disappointing, I think I'll be buying some Marvel Legends. (Bullseye, Taskmaster, Rhino... Deadpool needs hie enemies!)

Hasbro may stop making new Joes, but they can't take away the Joes I already have, so I'm not too sad about this.
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: Jebus on February 20, 2005, 11:38:39 PM
Will we still Comic 3-packs? :(

I really wanted Storm Shadow. :(
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: night force cynic on February 21, 2005, 12:26:45 AM
Yes, the new comic sets (Serpentor, Stormshadow, and Destro sets) ARE still coming.  Then we're just not getting anymore of them after that...   :x
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: AlleyViper on February 21, 2005, 02:09:49 AM
That really sucks.  For the most part, the Joe stuff coming out now is really good.  Maybe this is what happens after you constantly keep revamping, retooling and reorganizing a toy line that needs none of that.  I'm on the band wagon that says F U Hasbro.  If you had a clue how to market your own product, this wouldn't be a problem.
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: custo on February 21, 2005, 08:40:24 AM
Quote from: ""AlleyViper""
If you had a clue how to market your own product, this wouldn't be a problem.


Yah they should probably have tried, oh I don't know, a couple commercials, or actually having proper distribution.
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: Realboss on February 21, 2005, 04:11:07 PM
Last time I talked to Brain Savage, he was a little worried because things were up in the air with GI Joe because of Darryl DePriest leaving to go to the Star Wars line.  But I think the Collectors' Club will still continue with 3 3/4 and 12" exclusives because that is the core of the collectors and Brian had mentioned after the last convention how much 3 3/4 collectors' interest had grown in the past few years.  It's too bad Hasbro doesn't seem to see it that way.  Also, it would be nice if the reps. at Hasbro Canada would return phone calls once in a while.
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: BHMike on February 21, 2005, 04:38:51 PM
Quote from: ""Realboss""
Also, it would be nice if the reps. at Hasbro Canada would return phone calls once in a while.


:lol:

:shifty:

I'm obviously a tad pissed at Hasbro after FINALLY getting a solid source to get 'new' Joes from.
Mike
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: Redmao on February 21, 2005, 04:50:09 PM
man... Hasbro doesnt care, if they did we'd still have new joes on the pegs besides peg warmers.

We might even have those 12 inch soldiers too on regular retail! heck if they actually cared they wouldn't sacrifice classic joe and 3 3/4 joe for those anime buffed up real cloth pants wearing dudes!

I mean sure their main target is kids BUT kids don't play with action figures they play video games!
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: BHMike on February 21, 2005, 05:54:24 PM
Quote from: ""Redmao""
I mean sure their main target is kids BUT kids don't play with action figures they play video games!


Actually, they play with both.

A few guys on this board can attest to seeing kids buying Joes in my store...... heck, my nephew has a 120 figure Joe collection - and he's only 8!

Mind you, having an uncle that owns a toy store is a major plus in that area. :-)
Mike
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: Redmao on February 21, 2005, 05:59:32 PM
I was only speaking about what I saw. I don't know many kids and most play with video games... or bionicles :)
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: custo on February 21, 2005, 06:22:56 PM
I say that one day this year, all the montreal joe fans get together and go pay a visit to hasbro in longueil. We can throw tomatoes at them
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: BHMike on February 21, 2005, 07:22:09 PM
Hmmmm....... should we move the Meet to Montreal then?
:shifty:
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: Redmao on February 21, 2005, 07:25:41 PM
we could start the meet by throwing tomatoes at hasblow then we go back to toronto to do the actual meet :thumbsup:

imagine the news... a bunch of weirdos past their twenties protesting for a toy...
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: Pete The Greek on February 21, 2005, 08:55:58 PM
Tomatoes....I wonder how many will bring them to the round table at the convention this year.  lol  

Seriously, it's still to early to tell what Hasbro's motives are for the line down the road.  I just hope there is a contract stiil with TRU to make the 6 packs beyond the Winter Operations one.  Mastercollector will make the 3 3/4 exclusives unless interest takes a nose dive. So the potential of old school repaints is still there and with less to buy.  The potential of new sculps has taken a back seat. 2 months ago I would have said I won't miss them but wave 7 changed my mind.
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: Jon S. on February 21, 2005, 10:05:43 PM
I know a couple 8 years olds. I buy 'em toys (Bionicles, etc) and all they wanna do is play on the NES.
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: Redmao on February 22, 2005, 07:14:09 AM
NES?! the actual nes? You mean the good old first nintendo? With his 8 bit power? groovy :)

Back on topic though, I too think that the latest wave is promising. Interesting characters mix  so I'll have to get it.
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: Spillspleen on February 22, 2005, 12:06:23 PM
Yup...I gotta to say action figures have taken a nose dive over the last few years. Just compare the sections of action figures to video games at Walmart, Zellars, the Bay, Sears, Target, or Fred Myer! Video game section 30 to 40 feet top to bottom...action figures...several pegs full...maybe 2 feet top to bottom...!! The odd kid might collect but the retail stores that play the market tell the tail...video games rule the day....!
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: Jon S. on February 22, 2005, 12:18:23 PM
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NES?! the actual nes? You mean the good old first nintendo? With his 8 bit power?


They love the TMNT 2. The NES is on its last legs, but it has been for 10 years. Gotta love putting the kids on the classics. They also play lots of Adventure Island 2 and Super Mario Bros.

The reaction to Sigma 6 isn't nearly as negative as I thought it would be. I figure either a) we're all in denial b) we're all burnt out c) we all know the idea is going to tank and not particularly worried or d) relishing the opportunity to catch up on stuff we missed over the last couple years. (completists... I'm looking at you)

I just wish the Sigma 6 figures were better looking. So ugly....
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: Redmao on February 22, 2005, 01:18:41 PM
I guess some were wishing that those figure would look like hose neat custom we often see on ebay. Tthe killing (hiatus if you prefer) of the big and small joes isn't a price I'm willing to pay to see a new cartoon and new figures..its to freakin high a price!!!

At the meet we should do a dio were all our joe self beat up one of those 8 inches goons :) yeah that would teach em not to mess with the o ring team!
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: custo on February 22, 2005, 07:13:47 PM
Quote from: ""Redmao""
we could start the meet by throwing tomatoes at hasblow then we go back to toronto to do the actual meet :thumbsup:

imagine the news... a bunch of weirdos past their twenties protesting for a toy...


And one 17 year old :D
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: Redmao on February 22, 2005, 08:05:30 PM
Of course. I said past their twenties since most of us are in our twenties but some are younger some are a bit older.

Time sure flies by.
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: custo on February 22, 2005, 08:22:21 PM
Quote from: ""Redmao""
Of course. I said past their twenties since most of us are in our twenties but some are younger some are a bit older.

Time sure flies by.


Tell me about it, 18th birthday next month :D
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: custo on February 22, 2005, 08:54:20 PM
(http://http://img61.exs.cx/img61/9792/sigma6edit3mw.png)
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: Collectorman on March 10, 2005, 06:56:41 PM
Quote from: ""custo""
(http://http://img61.exs.cx/img61/9792/sigma6edit3mw.png)


:lol:

Shouldn't that say 3 3/4" GI Joe?
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: Redmao on March 11, 2005, 08:11:10 AM
:lol:  :lol:
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: Jon S. on March 11, 2005, 01:44:28 PM
I still have my Starcom figure. He's so tiny. What a great yet really stupid line. Soooo easy to lose those guys.
Title: 12 and 3 3/4 figure lines going into retirement
Post by: morgardee on March 11, 2005, 01:56:31 PM
No way. I have 1 figure and I still have him because he's stuck to a shelf thanks to his little magnets in his feet. I've lost a lot of other things, but not him.  :lol: