Post by: Raptor on August 07, 2009, 04:45:26 PM
You will hate Marlon Wayans after watching it. Even if you liked him before, you won't after. Also Scarlett.
Some people dressed up in line, but the theater was only half full. Someone gave me a sticker for my shirt that they had printed up to complete my costume. ;-)
Watch the Snake Eyes scenes carefully or you'll miss stuff. Ray is so damned fast, you miss a lot of the stuff. Stormy though is perfect, and you get to see everything he does, which makes him super awesome.
Still there are more than enough really cool moments to make it worth seeing. It was a good thrill ride and worth seeing in the theater. The problem was that it really needed a crowning moment of awesome at the end that just didn't seem to come. Sadly this is not a movie that is in the class of Iron Man or Dark Knight, but it was better than Transformer's II by a long shot.
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Post by: morgardee on August 08, 2009, 11:09:36 AM
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You will hate Marlon Wayans after watching it. Even if you liked him before, you won't after. Also Scarlett.
I disagree. I hated Marlon Wayans before the movie but after the movie I liked him. He as zero to do with the ARAH Ripcord character but then again, this move is far from ARAH.
Scarlett, well I don't know what to make of her character. She was pretty flat as a character and very typical.
Ripcord had some humour but when it was time to get serious he was able to make that switch without it feeling forced.
I do agree it was way better then TF2.
Post by: pdaat on August 08, 2009, 11:48:40 AM
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Post by: dodge822 on August 08, 2009, 11:59:14 AM
I was very impressed by the way it was done, they way the characters were, i will see it again, i was looking at it from the thought of a new beginning, for gijoe for the next gen of future gi joe fans, and i think as the sequels come out new characters will be introduced and old characters will evolve into more then they are now, as cobra commander and destro did, even if just a little. i am still unhappy about the use of heavy duty over roadblock though, and hope they at least bring roadblock in later.
Post by: Realboss on August 08, 2009, 12:09:20 PM
Overall, it was a really good set up for the franchise and hopefully the second movie out does this one. There is a lot of potential here.
Post by: morgardee on August 08, 2009, 03:00:42 PM
Post by: Realboss on August 08, 2009, 04:03:28 PM
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I was happily surprised to see Brandon Frasers. I didn't know he was in the movie. I think he might have been testing the waters with attaching his name to the G.I. Joe brand. He is finally getting back into Hollywood with some decent films as of late (Ink Heart for one) so he can watch the reviews of the first film and if it does well then he could easily come back in the second film and have his character be more important. That's just a guess, but it would make sense to me.
I knew Brandon Fraser was going to be in the movie. Originally his character was Gung Ho.
I saw an interview with him and he stated that as soon as he heard Steven Sommers pick up the GIJoe movie he had his agent call for a part because he wanted to be in the movie no matter what. However, when he saw the reference material for Gung Ho(guess he didn't know who he was) Brandon proceeded to laugh and trash the character and his memories of playing with GIJoe as a kid consisted of blowing them up. So I would say it was a pure business move.
Post by: Canuklehead on August 08, 2009, 11:05:48 PM
Overall, I didn't hate it, but I didn't love it. There were good parts, but so many critical errors that made it lousy.
The characters were extremely one-dimensional and clich?. The back-stories and character relationships were ham-handed at best. And the writing had more holes in it than Blackburn, Lancashire (how the hell does the Night Raven's weapon "lock on" when it fires in a straight line? How does an elite unit comprised of "the top soldiers of every country's military" end up with tens of thousands of members?). The sister of the commander of the friend of the squademate of the fiancee, etc etc etc was the worst. As much as I hate characters that "just are because they are", I would have preferred that over the pitiable backstory they tried to cook up. And they should have just completely avoided any relationships, romantic or otherwise - they totally threw credibility out the window, with that. As a movie, it was pretty lousy...
However, it had some good moments. I liked the accelerator suits and the fancy weapons/vehicles/tech - the near-future tech was great. I liked the easter-egg-esque catch-phrases peppered through the movie - they fit with the dialogue just fine and made me smile. The back-stories that they just kept simple were great - Destro's was alright, Snake Eyes/Storm Shadow was good... I guess that's all of them, really - the rest stank. Zartan was awesome. The action was great. The ending and the "grand plan" was transparent, but satisfying.
Ultimately, I knew they'd re-write the GI Joe mythos for this one. I went in there expecting to re-learn everything about GI Joe, so that aspect doesn't even bother me. What bothers me is that the story they came up with was (for lack of a more colourful word) lousy. It's as if they jotted down some bullet-point notes on a whiteboard, brushed their hands and said "done!" As much as I hope there's a sequel, I hope they get a new team of writers for it because GI Joe deserves a better story than what ROC delivered.
/rant
Post by: canprime on August 09, 2009, 11:22:00 AM
I was one who kept an open mind beforehand, and was really hopeful after all the early fan reviews. However, this movie was just awful.
I think the action was really well done for the most part. The Paris scene turned out to be my favourite in the whole movie.
However, the rest was terrible. The acting, the story, the pacing and the scenery.
I get the whole "in the near future" but the sets and bases were beyond ridiculous.
I give credit to Wayans, Miller and the actor who played SS. Good jobs all around. The rest including Quaid should be embarassed with how they handled the dialogue. Granted, the dialogue was dreadful as well.
Zartan and CC seemed to be on the cusp of being great characters, but never got the chance to be fleshed out further.
I'm Canadian, and this bothered me the most....WHY WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE USA A BRIT????? GOOD LORD!!! This is 2009, not 1950, you can easily find actors to play the role who either are American or can do a proper US accent.
After all this, I am still going to to and watch it again, and maybe it will improve my opinion.
Post by: Hammer Viper on August 09, 2009, 09:44:53 PM
Post by: olyeller01 on August 10, 2009, 12:27:47 AM
The brother/fiancee thing DID seem contrived and unwieldy. I didn't quite buy the "Nanites can do anything" angle either.
While the grand plan behind everything was plausible, I agree that the bases for both Joe and Cobra were flat ridiculous. While I could see GI Joe EVENTUALLY growing into the force they show in the movie, I figured it was going to be a small, growing force. While the multi-national aspect was cool and somewhat expected (especially considering how at the end of the ARAH line GI Joe had members from just about everywhere) I don't buy the Pit being in Egypt.
As for the actors, I really like Dennis Quaid as Hawk. For that matter, I liked him in The Alamo as Sam Houston. So, Mr. Quaid, you have now played my two favorite generals (real and fictional). You just need Washington to complete the Trifecta. Sienna Miller did a great job as the Baroness, a perfect mix of sexy and evil. Didn't buy what happened to her at the end. Rachel Nichols is smoking hot, but needed more character development. I've always liked Chris Eccleston but I think he should have played Destro more like his character from Gone in 60. Ray Park is an amazing martial artist and acrobat, and Lee Byeong-heon did an excellent Storm Shadow.
All in all I was thoroughly entertained and hope the movie does well but I just have one request to Paramount for the sequels.
For God's sake, PLEASE get rid of that stupid, idiotic, goofy !@#$ing molded mouth on Snake-Eyes! It annoyed me every time I saw it!
Post by: latinjoe22 on August 10, 2009, 12:50:36 AM
Oh and I even very much enjoyed the sequence where the Joes use the Accelerator Suits...As for Duke, he was my least favorite Joe in the cartoon, but I found his character was a rising star in this movie.
I actually went to see it with some Joe buddies of Montreal. When the movie ended, we had somewhat agreed to scream Yo-Joe...but we got beaten to it by a group of kids that were sitting in front of our row. They actually stayed seated and silent and clapped respectfully, that my friends....was amazing.
Post by: BHMike on August 10, 2009, 09:26:28 AM
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For God's sake, PLEASE get rid of that stupid, idiotic, goofy !@#$ing molded mouth on Snake-Eyes! It annoyed me every time I saw it!
I still don't see what the big deal is..... everyone complains about that mouth - but the 1985 Snake Eyes HAD a mouth on the figure. Go look. It's been there for 24 years.
I'd be complaining over the lame-ass white outfit he was wearing in one scene.
Post by: morgardee on August 10, 2009, 11:12:46 AM
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Quote from: "olyeller01"For God's sake, PLEASE get rid of that stupid, idiotic, goofy !@#$ing molded mouth on Snake-Eyes! It annoyed me every time I saw it!
I still don't see what the big deal is..... everyone complains about that mouth - but the 1985 Snake Eyes HAD a mouth on the figure. Go look. It's been there for 24 years.
I'd be complaining over the lame-ass white outfit he was wearing in one scene.
Yes does have a mouth but it's not a noticable on V2 Snake Eyes. Heck, that was the first thing I pointed out to Greg at the Hasbro both this year when I saw the Snake Eyes action figure. I said it might be an issue with some people. I had no idea at the time it was going to look so bad in the movie. The problem is the Snake Eyes costume was way to much rubber, much like the old Bat Man costume. They should have looked at the Snake Eyes costume like it was a real outfit, and not try to make him look like a super hero. That way he would have had a cloth outfit, and not rubber.
Post by: thatcarlguy on August 10, 2009, 12:38:21 PM
I felt the computer graphics looks a little unfinished and sometimes it bumped me out of the story but it was easy enough to get back in to it. I hope they make toys of the SHARC's because they looked pretty awesome.
I still don't like the Delta 6 suits but the scene was kind of fun regardless and I cheered when Ripcord got hit by the car...I think if I had made the movie I would have given them cool motorbikes instead of the suits. It seems odd to me to see them running after the Cobra SUV. I didn't buy it. But I told myself that I didn't buy the Fatal Fluffies back in the day and I still watch and enjoy that Joe movie anyway. Actually once I put it in that perspective I was able to enjoy movie.
I'm going to see it again this afternoon.
Post by: olyeller01 on August 10, 2009, 03:05:03 PM
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I felt the computer graphics looks a little unfinished and sometimes it bumped me out of the story but it was easy enough to get back in to it. I hope they make toys of the SHARC's because they looked pretty awesome.
But I told myself that I didn't buy the Fatal Fluffies back in the day and I still watch and enjoy that Joe movie anyway. Actually once I put it in that perspective I was able to enjoy movie.
I forgot to mention the computer graphics. They look like early 2000's computer graphics in several spots. I guess Paramount didn't want to spring for ILM to do the effects for this one...I always thought Transformers kind of set the new standard for computer graphics, and I wish ROC's would have at least been up to those.
And my one other complaint is that you have to look really, really hard to see Larry Hama's cameo. If I hadn't seen a special that showed him during the filming of the scene I wouldn't have caught him. They should have let the Father of Modern GI Joe walk up and shake hands and maybe have a few words with Hawk or something.
And LMAO at the Fatal Fluffies. Those things were terrible.
Post by: morgardee on August 10, 2009, 04:13:52 PM
Post by: BHMike on August 10, 2009, 06:46:56 PM
Apparently from what I was told, he was to have a bigger part... I think it was supposed to be HIM that tells Hawk to bring the Joes back. ...and he's apparently heavily decorated with ranks and such.
Post by: akpayne on August 10, 2009, 07:05:39 PM
http://ramascreen.com/larry-hama-the-godfather-of-g-i-joe/ (http://http://ramascreen.com/larry-hama-the-godfather-of-g-i-joe/)
Post by: Realboss on August 10, 2009, 07:12:40 PM
Post by: CADPAT on August 11, 2009, 01:56:45 PM
Quote from: "Raptor"
You will hate Marlon Wayans after watching it. Even if you liked him before, you won't after.No kidding. I was indifferent to him beforehand, but now, I don't think I hate any other person in Hollywood quite as much as Marlon Wayans (with the the possible exceptions of Stuart Beattie, Steven Sommers and Lorenzo de Bonaventura).
Quote from: "olyeller01"
Rachel Nichols is smoking hot, but needed more character development.Basically, it seems like her part was more "token object of desire for Marlon Wayans" than "Shana 'Scarlett' O'Hara". I mean, apart from shoot random Vipers what exactly did she do but serve as an enabler to Wayans' character?
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I read a review in the news paper that Marlon Waynes Ripcord character is reminiscent of Jar Jar Binks in Star Wars. How fitting.Indeed.