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martin-montreal

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Sad news for the GI Joe community
« on: May 13, 2024, 06:40:24 PM »

The GI Joe community is one of the smallest collecting community if you compare it with Star Wars, Marvel, Transformers, ...

We already lost YoJoe.com, now YouTubers are fighting at each others. Saddly, Canadians are involved:

1. A Canadian compagny bought YoJoe to almost close it.

2. Canadian Michael Mercy is fighting against RetroBlasting for an AirWolf Kickstarter project in which he wasn't involved.

3. Canadian Viper Island is filling complaints against Sh4rk, 3POA for copyright issues on YouTube.

No one wins... it's sad.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2024, 06:58:26 PM by martin-montreal »
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Re: Sad news for the GI Joe community
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2024, 06:10:13 AM »

Yeah it is strange how things are playing out right now in the community (Youtube especially).

My thoughts on the topics are:

1 - As shitty as it is, that is what business does.  The company that bought YoJoe.com clearly didn't do it's homework on the site and just saw an opportunity.  However if they had done their homework they would have realized that it probably wasn't a good buy.  However it is their business so they can take the loss, just sad that it will take down a beloved Joe site with it.   At least there is still 3D Joes as a visual resource.

2.  Michael Mercy has some great content and I have enjoyed a bunch of his videos over the years.  Retroblasting seems like a deeply unhappy person who uses his channel to spread his opinion in negative ways.  I have only ever seen a couple of his videos and the time he and Scott Nietlich (Toyguru) had a debate on GeekDadLife.   During that video he came across as fairly unlikeable and bitter, which is saying something when you are in the same video as Scott Nietlich who is also not well liked.

3.  I have watched a couple of Viper Island videos over the past couple of years.  I thought he was a good channel, but having seen the drama around his channel lately my opinion has changed.   It's kind of the same situation with Retroblasting/ToyGuru.   I think the 3POA channel is way too negative.  I have tried to watch a couple videos but each time I have to tap out because it seems like they don't even like collecting toys, but rather they just want to go on and bash people/companies and claim they are just being "honest."  Others like A Toy Kinda Mood and The Full Force have also had issues with Viper Island and seeing the evidence of what they claim VI has been doing makes it clear that the guy is, at the least, shady since those two channels are hardly known for being bad faith actors.   That has made it easy for me to avoid VI because those kind of actions are crap moves and not worth supporting.
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Re: Sad news for the GI Joe community
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2024, 12:02:58 PM »

Crazy - and all of this because of some little plastic army men we fell in love with in the early 80's.
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Re: Sad news for the GI Joe community
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2024, 02:04:49 AM »

agreed, ak.
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Re: Sad news for the GI Joe community
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2024, 11:07:58 AM »

3. Canadian Viper Island is filling complaints against Sh4rk, 3POA for copyright issues on YouTube.

I've never heard of this guy... Can any one fill me in on what's going on with this and why this is the fourth time I've seen this Viper Island dude being talked about?
Legit, I have absolutely no clue what it pertains to.

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Re: Sad news for the GI Joe community
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2024, 07:28:04 PM »

3. Canadian Viper Island is filling complaints against Sh4rk, 3POA for copyright issues on YouTube.

I've never heard of this guy... Can any one fill me in on what's going on with this and why this is the fourth time I've seen this Viper Island dude being talked about?
Legit, I have absolutely no clue what it pertains to.

What is sad is I like his videos. This guy knows how to edit and go to the point. But the trouble came from behind the scene. Now, who is telling the thruth? I don't know. Watch this:

Video 1:
https://youtu.be/8FCIGqRBjSo?feature=shared

Video 2:
https://youtu.be/jhgli8LuGDk?feature=shared


And to help to see both sides, VI posted this:

https://m.youtube.com/post/UgkxbRH6UYY94_SxSLGSSXj3DzQxHugvMef1
« Last Edit: June 01, 2024, 02:50:12 AM by martin-montreal »
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Re: Sad news for the GI Joe community
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2024, 12:57:11 PM »

3. Canadian Viper Island is filling complaints against Sh4rk, 3POA for copyright issues on YouTube.

I've never heard of this guy... Can any one fill me in on what's going on with this and why this is the fourth time I've seen this Viper Island dude being talked about?
Legit, I have absolutely no clue what it pertains to.

What is sad is I like his videos. This guy knows how to edit and go to the point. But the trouble came from behind the scene. Now, who is telling the thruth? I don't know. Watch this:

Video 1:
https://youtu.be/8FCIGqRBjSo?feature=shared

Video 2:
https://youtu.be/jhgli8LuGDk?feature=shared


And to help to see both sides, VI posted this:

https://m.youtube.com/post/UgkxbRH6UYY94_SxSLGSSXj3DzQxHugvMef1

I don't think that post from VI you link to does anything to see both sides.

The guy basically doesn't address anything he is accused of (with proof in most cases) and just leaves a snarky post.
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Re: Sad news for the GI Joe community
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2024, 01:05:22 PM »

3. Canadian Viper Island is filling complaints against Sh4rk, 3POA for copyright issues on YouTube.

I've never heard of this guy... Can any one fill me in on what's going on with this and why this is the fourth time I've seen this Viper Island dude being talked about?
Legit, I have absolutely no clue what it pertains to.

Basically he has been accused (with proof) of using other channels content as his own and then copyright striking those channels to shut down any attempt to confront him.   The biggest ones recently have to do with A Toy Kinda Mood and 3POA.

A Toy Kinda Mood did an interview with the Joe team at SDCC last year and VI used the video, but cut out anything that would show it was done by them.  Then he also claimed/hinted at the video being connected to him with no credit given to A Toy Kinda Mood.

For 3POA the guy who runs it (Lazerpants) got, from a source, the photo of the Nemesis Immortal prototype heads and VI used it without credit and when he got called out on it he started copyright striking 3POA, Lazerpants and other channels that came to the defence of 3POA.

All in all it is pretty scumbag type of behaviour and what's worse is he is a Canadian who claims to have decades of experience in media (TV/Film/whatever).  So he knows full well that he should be, at the minimum, giving credit to the sources of anything he posts that isn't directly his.  However he doesn't and has gone scorched earth instead because the automated systems at the different social media companies allows for these kinds of bogus strikes without any real recourse that doesn't take weeks/months to resolve.

I had watched a couple of his videos over the years and thought he was pretty good.  Although I did question him including his son the way he did (it came across as phony/forced).   Now I couldn't be bothered, and that is saying something when I don't like 3POA or Analog Toys either.
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Re: Sad news for the GI Joe community
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2024, 07:50:32 PM »

And now both channels are down:
1. Viper Island
2. Sharknews

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Re: Sad news for the GI Joe community
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2024, 11:30:24 PM »

Yojoe was bought by VerticalScope.  Just look them up online.  Pretty much every online forum they have bought has been ruined by them.  Just a useless owner. 

As for those YouTubers mentioned, no clue who they are.  So the drama means nothing to me. 
« Last Edit: June 18, 2024, 11:46:56 PM by Pete The Greek »
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Re: Sad news for the GI Joe community
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2024, 06:17:31 AM »

Sad to hear about Sharknews as I didn't think there was anything wrong with that channel, from what little I had seen.

Good riddance to Viper Island.   Unfortunately he'll probably pop back up in a couple months after everything dies down.  However he got what he deserved for his shitty practices.   The definition of you get what you give.
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Re: Sad news for the GI Joe community
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2024, 07:47:49 AM »

yup, this is why I stay with just old joes and the forums, and select videos from Youtube. Keeps the drama away.
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