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General Section => General Joe Talk => Topic started by: Realboss on November 05, 2009, 06:50:53 PM
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I just finished watching the commentary for the movie and they elude to a few things that will show up in the sequel, such as Storm Shadow(still alive) not being the one who killed the Hard Master and Dr. Mindbender having a larger role in the next movie.
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The comic (and from what I hear, the novel) adaptation of Rise Of Cobra has Storm Shadow outright say that he was not the one who killed the Hard Master.
Can't understand why they'd leave something like that out of the movie itself, though.
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The comic (and from what I hear, the novel) adaptation of Rise Of Cobra has Storm Shadow outright say that he was not the one who killed the Hard Master.
Can't understand why they'd leave something like that out of the movie itself, though.
I read somewhere that the ending didn't test well with audiences. Originally they left that part in the movie where SS tells SE that he didn't kill their master. Unfortunately that made SE look like a killer in the audiences eyes because he killed SS even knowing he didn't kill their master. So they cut it from the movie to keep SE more heroic.
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The comic (and from what I hear, the novel) adaptation of Rise Of Cobra has Storm Shadow outright say that he was not the one who killed the Hard Master.
Can't understand why they'd leave something like that out of the movie itself, though.
It was in the novel, yes. Snakes didn't seem too care much though.
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I read somewhere that the ending didn't test well with audiences. Originally they left that part in the movie where SS tells SE that he didn't kill their master. Unfortunately that made SE look like a killer in the audiences eyes because he killed SS even knowing he didn't kill their master. So they cut it from the movie to keep SE more heroic.
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Sommers commented on that very issue and said people were confused because it did make Snake Eyes out to be a cold blooded killer and it took away from Storm Shadows evil persona. They said it would be explained in a flash back in the sequel.
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One of the things I didn't like about the movie was it completely failed to show SE and SS as having any kind of bond. The movie portrayed them as enemies from their first meeting all the way through. It was so one dimensional. Basically SE was good and SS was bad, so when the end came there was no real tension regarding their relationship. Two old friends facing eachother on the opposite sides. This is one of the aspects of their relationship that was consistent through all continuities and they dropped it in the movie.
In the movie, if I recall correctly, you see SE sort of look at SS fall almost like SE has some regret, but it's completely useless since SS is purely portrayed as a jerk through the whole film. Just one of the failures of the movie in my opinion.
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Forget the sequel. They should just pretend the first one doesn't exist (ala Highlander 2, Hulk) and start over again.
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Forget the sequel. They should just pretend the first one doesn't exist (ala Highlander 2, Hulk) and start over again.
No, no. You're thinking of Resolute there.
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Forget the sequel. They should just pretend the first one doesn't exist (ala Highlander 2, Hulk) and start over again.
Problem is the movie made too much money unlike the other two you mentioned.
Sommers also stated that this movie set a record for how quickly it was produced in such short time for a block buster type movie.. From being rushed into production by the studio once it was given the green light, shot in 86 days and as about as much time in pre-production with.
Resolute also seemed rushed, no where near what I thought it would be from the promo scene they released a year earlier.
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Ya, you are right. It all comes down to how much money you can make.
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As per various sites, the writers have confirmed that the sequel will be a follow up to the first movie but follow more closely with roots of the toyline.
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I would have prefered that Storm Shadow stayed dead, but anyway. I'm still very much looking forward to the sequel. Maybe we'll get Firefly?
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don't care what new Cobras appear. Want Jaye and Flint. that is all.
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You know. I've seen the title of this thread since the day it was posted and just now I mistakenly thought it said "Timbits" - not "Tidbits". LOL.
I must be craving some!
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I'd like to see Firefly and Wild Weasel.
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Since Hasbro wanted GI Joe to be more of a world team instead of its orginial ARAH theme. I wonder which other Joes will get a "do-over" and have a different nationality?
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Good question. I personally made Flint british since he lead Action Force for a time, and made Law French because of his last name.
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I found this on the web, some interesting info about GI Joe 2:
Zombieland/G.I. Joe Writers Discuss Sequels & Deadpool Movie
Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick reveal more details on their upcoming action packed films.
The DenofGeek website managed to have an interview with the Zombieland writers as their Blu-ray and DVD formats id release in the UK.
From DenofGeek: What can we expect from Zombieland 2?
Paul: "There are a couple of things you can expect. One, we will hopefully have all our cast back – everyone’s excited to return. We will also introduce new characters; it will be in 3D..."
Rhett: "It will be a bigger budget so there’ll be more grand zombie killing. In every way it’ll be bigger. The cast will be bigger, the action scenes will be bigger and, hopefully, with 3D you will be looking down to make sure that’s not blood on top of your popcorn."
People who haven't gotten the chance to watch Zombieland should purchase the DVD when it releases in the U.S. It is the perfect zombie related film I have ever seen.
Personally, I am getting frustrated with the overuse of 3D technology nowadays or in the near future. However, if the directors and writers of a film want to utilize 3D and have confidence in its glamor, it is fine by me. Zombieland 2 with blood and corpses flying all over the theater seems a little too much for me though these guys have gained my respect ever since I saw the first film.
DenofGeek: What’s it like writing a movie specifically for 3D?
RR: "We hear a lot of people say, ‘Oh no, we’re not going to write to the 3D, we’re just going to make a great a great story because we don’t want the 3D to affect the story’ or ‘Ee don’t want it to be too gimmicky.’ We couldn’t disagree more. We really want to write to 3D, we’ll be having things fly at camera, we’ll be using the gimmicks, because why not? The new 3D is such a high quality, it’s going to provide us with opportunities that filmmakers haven’t had until recently and why not take advantage of those?"
PW: "They say that 3D and good character and story are mutually exclusive, you can’t have both, and once you start writing for 3D you lose your drive and you’re paying more attention to what’s coming at you rather than the characters and story. We think you can do both, and do both great."
The release date may be next year, but judging by the uncertainty the writers express by their next quote, it may be another 3 years till we see the sequel.
DenofGeeks: Are you looking at a 2011 release date for the movie?
PW: "We’re just not sure. The studio’s excited to make it, we’re excited to write it and direct it and the actors seem excited to act in it. When that comes together we’re just not sure, but assume it’ll be in the next year or two or three."
Now onto Deadpool and the G.I Joe sequel.
DenofGeek: You are now going to be very busy for the foreseeable future. As well as Zombieland 2, you have signed on for the Deadpool movie and the GI Joe sequel. How are both of those projects developing?
PW: "They’re going great. We’re excited about them for different reasons. Deadpool is just an irreverent, kick-ass, self-deprecating character and they say ‘write what you know’, so... minus the kick-ass! We’ve been developing that with Ryan Reynolds, who’ll play the character of Deadpool. It’s been great."
"And GI Joe is such a fun, fun, fun playground for us. It doesn’t get any bigger than GI Joe. Rhett made his first movie when he was, what, nine?"
RR: "I was 11 or 12."
PW: "It was a GI Joe movie made with stop motion characters, with little action figurines. We were up in Rhode Island where Hasbro is headquartered. It’s such an inspired world and one where excited to play in."
RH: "Unfortunately, we’re not allowed to talk about what the movies about, but just know that we have a deep affection for GI Joe, and that we’ll bring our absolute best to it and hope that that’s good enough."
Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick seem optimistic in developing the Deadpool and G.I Joe 2 stories. Fortunately, they practically adore the G.I Joe concept, what G.I fan wouldn't. This is a great head start for the G.I Joe franchise since it is under control by worthy writers rather than a director who failed to make a successful Mummy franchise. Deadpool will most likely film after Ryan is done forming constructs with his galactic ring. Rhett and Paul should focus on Deadpool first since it is a done deal for Ryan Reynolds while G.I may not star the same cast except Duke.
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don't see why Rachel, Ray, Marlon, Said or Adwele wouldn't return. only 2 i DON'T see returning are Sienna and Ecclestone. and Sienna might seeing as she said she wanted to play something 'lighter' and seemed to enjoy it from what i read.
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The problem here is all the info of GI Joe 2 is all speculation now. The writers are doing Dead Pool first before they write the movie. Don't get me wrong I love the rumors, I will be posting them here as I find them. Until we see the trailers anything can happen. Plus the new characters in the movie must be Major Blood and Tomax and Xamot. ;D
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i want Flint and Jaye. don't care about aught else. just want them. especially if they get Jen Garner as Jaye.
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Jennifer Garner would make a great Lady Jaye! But who would be her Flint? Please say no to Ben Affleck!
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Jennifer Garner would make a great Lady Jaye! But who would be her Flint? Please say no to Ben Affleck!
i say Russell Crowe
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Jennifer Garner would make a great Lady Jaye! But who would be her Flint? Please say no to Ben Affleck!
i say Russell Crowe
If not Flint, he could be a great Shipwreck!
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Jennifer Garner would make a great Lady Jaye! But who would be her Flint? Please say no to Ben Affleck!
If I were in charge then I'd hire Joe Flanigan to play Flint. He already has the whole military meets Sci-fi thing on his resume, would be a good to fit with the rest of the cast, he looks the part and seems very charismatic.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0281167/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0281167/)
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If they were to introduce Quick Kick, who would you use, Jackie Chan? How about Jet Li has Storm Shadow?
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I've said it before - Sam Jackson as Stalker. Gold!
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Samuel Jackson as Stalker would be gold. That guy is in every movie!
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If they were to introduce Quick Kick, who would you use, Jackie Chan? How about Jet Li has Storm Shadow?
Oh hell no. Jackie Chan is a slapstick guy, more Buster Keaton than Bruce Lee. Plus he is a bit too old to play a military martial arts specialist.
And why the hell do we need Jet Li as Storm Shadow when Lee Byung-Hun already portrayed such a sexy, sexy evil Storm Shadow?
I've said it before - Sam Jackson as Stalker. Gold!
Yes. A hundred thousand times yes. No one can play the role better.
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If they were to introduce Quick Kick, who would you use, Jackie Chan? How about Jet Li has Storm Shadow?
Oh hell no. Jackie Chan is a slapstick guy, more Buster Keaton than Bruce Lee. Plus he is a bit too old to play a military martial arts specialist.
And why the hell do we need Jet Li as Storm Shadow when Lee Byung-Hun already portrayed such a sexy, sexy evil Storm Shadow?
I've said it before - Sam Jackson as Stalker. Gold!
Yes. A hundred thousand times yes. No one can play the role better.
Hey Jay, that's the second time you've made reference to Lee Byung-Hun being sexy, not that there is anything wrong with that.
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If they were to introduce Quick Kick, who would you use, Jackie Chan? How about Jet Li has Storm Shadow?
Oh hell no. Jackie Chan is a slapstick guy, more Buster Keaton than Bruce Lee. Plus he is a bit too old to play a military martial arts specialist.
Okay, how about Jason Scott Lee (from Dragon the Bruce Lee Story)? He should be young enough to play Quick Kick.
Now for Roadblock how about Michael Clarke Duncan?
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Hey Jay, that's the second time you've made reference to Lee Byung-Hun being sexy, not that there is anything wrong with that.
Only the second time??
If they were to introduce Quick Kick, who would you use, Jackie Chan? How about Jet Li has Storm Shadow?
Oh hell no. Jackie Chan is a slapstick guy, more Buster Keaton than Bruce Lee. Plus he is a bit too old to play a military martial arts specialist.
Okay, how about Jason Scott Lee (from Dragon the Bruce Lee Story)? He should be young enough to play Quick Kick.
Now for Roadblock how about Michael Clarke Duncan?
Nah, Jason Scott Lee is also getting on in age. And he's never been particularly good at martial arts, which is why most of his post-Dragon action films have been low-budget B-movies.
Haven't seen Ninja Assassin or Speed Racer, but if Rain is any good at fight scenes without relying on wires and CGI, maybe he'd make a good QK.
As for MCD, he's also getting old. I say either Terry Crews or Bob Sapp for Roadblock.
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make Flint a Brit and cast me!
*Flint and Jaye make-out scene a must!*
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Hey Jay,
I had another person say that Michael Clarke Duncan should play Roadblock!
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Lady Jaye=Catherine Bell.. that is all I have to say about that sequel!
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Did anyone get a chance to read the fake GI Joe 2 script that is out on the Internet? I know this was out on the Net in May but I finally got a chance to read the whole thing today (Not to busy at work today) and it is pretty good. I only rolled my eyes a couple times when Duke saved the day but overall I would have enjoyed this if it was real. Here is the link to it if you did not get a chance to read it. Its about 126 pages long and only took a couple hours to read.
http://www.box.net/shared/bg7tuz61mg (http://www.box.net/shared/bg7tuz61mg)
Let me know what you would have changed if was real?