Post by: Chinooked Canuck on July 16, 2004, 11:04:11 AM
I heard over the radio this morning that Target is looking at acquiring Zellers in Canada. which is the sister company of Husdons bay company. They want to compete with the walmarts in the Canadian division. which could mean that we could see another spot to search for joes. WOO HOO!!!! :D . Just thought I would let others know and share the joy!!!!!
Post by: BHMike on July 16, 2004, 12:42:17 PM
First it was Woolco (become Walmart)
Then Consumers Distributing (Just died and closed up)
Then Robinsons (Also died and closed up)
Now Zellers (Rumoured to be Target)
Our Canadian stores are dying.
Mike
Post by: Chinooked Canuck on July 16, 2004, 01:59:52 PM
Quote from: ""BHT""
That would suck.
First it was Woolco (become Walmart)
Then Consumers Distributing (Just died and closed up)
Then Robinsons (Also died and closed up)
Now Zellers (Rumoured to be Target)
Our Canadian stores are dying.
Mike
They have been dying for a long time, I agree with you on that. All Im saying is that finally another compeditor to walmart, They have been been getting greedy and too powerfull, With Target as a real compeditor, we are likely to see real price drops to compete with them. that's all Im saying.And another location to search for joes. everybody should be excited about that.
Who know's, Maby target will do things that are different with regards to some of the problems that walmart has been having, such as figure swapping, waves not going to all of the stores(including vehicals).
Post by: Stealth Viper on July 16, 2004, 02:30:56 PM
Quote from: ""BHT""
That would suck.
First it was Woolco (become Walmart)
Then Consumers Distributing (Just died and closed up)
Then Robinsons (Also died and closed up)
Now Zellers (Rumoured to be Target)
Our Canadian stores are dying.
Mike
Holy crap... I forgot all about Robinsons!
At any rate, I have to agree with Mike here. As much as it would be cool to see Target in Canada selling Joes, seeing Zellers cease to exist takes us on step closer to being just another state.
Post by: Pete The Greek on July 16, 2004, 05:08:18 PM
Post by: akpayne on July 16, 2004, 10:18:44 PM
On a different note - Target and Zellers have carried very similar "store" brands for years - I think the clothing line is called Cherokee, why I know this is beyond me!
I love Canada, but I envy American consumerism.
Post by: Crankcase on July 17, 2004, 05:37:17 AM
Quote from: ""akpayne""
I have seen Target Transport trucks for the last 4 or 5 years all over the 401 - they must pick up from a distributer in Canada? Maybe Maple Syrup?
On a different note - Target and Zellers have carried very similar "store" brands for years - I think the clothing line is called Cherokee, why I know this is beyond me!
I love Canada, but I envy American consumerism.
Target trucking is different.....They haul for anybody....
I hope Target doesn't take over Zellers..what will happen to all the ClubZ points?????
I wouldn't mind Target coming up here though...
Post by: gsmiley007 on July 17, 2004, 02:45:26 PM
Post by: AlleyViper on July 17, 2004, 05:52:57 PM
Target does business like Walmart, cheap, cheap, cheap all the time. Give Walmart some real competition and give the consumers some of the super big sales that I've only heard about and dreamed about.
Sure, its sad that Canadian retailers are getting over-ran by American retailers, but its the same thing in the NHL. All the money is in the US, and its become too hard for Canadian companies/teams to compete.
Post by: custo on July 17, 2004, 05:58:24 PM
Zellers is useless, not price competitive and i welcome target to take them over.
Post by: Chinooked Canuck on July 19, 2004, 08:53:26 AM
Take a good look around, you think that we are one step closer to becoming a state(U.S.A).Well your about 5 years too late, pretty much everytihing we see is Americanized. I dont like it, but that is the way it is!
Post by: morgardee on July 19, 2004, 02:30:43 PM
Sure I also have a medical plan I put in for at work, but that costs me just over $100.00 a month and I could have 25 kids and it would still be just over $100.00.
Are we similar to the U.S.? Sure, we have a lot in common but there is still enough difference for other cultures to recognize the difference without having to wear the Canadian flag somewhere on yourself.
2 years ago in Jamaica, standing in line for my food I leaned over and told someone their food was ready. The Jamaican girl/cook behind the counter and said something along the lines of "Thank you. That was nice of you. Are you Canadian?"
As for the whole Target thing, in my area I can think of 4 different Zellers so I wouldn't mind if one of them was sold off to become a Target. I'd like to see some of those exclusives up here.
Post by: Collectorman on July 19, 2004, 04:37:25 PM
Quote from: ""morgardee""
2 years ago in Jamaica, standing in line for my food I leaned over and told someone their food was ready. The Jamaican girl/cook behind the counter and said something along the lines of "Thank you. That was nice of you. Are you Canadian?"
I've had the same happen to me in Scotland. I went into a pub and they asked me if I was American. I said, "Nope, I'm from Canada." They bought me beer for the entire night! When I asked them what they would have done if I was American, they replied, "We would have thrown you out."
Back on topic: Does anyone remember Towers? The one in Hamilton was always packed with new and old GI Joe items.
Post by: Redmao on July 20, 2004, 07:49:09 AM
Post by: Tattoo Shane on July 21, 2004, 07:48:10 AM
If you really don't like the Americanization of Canada then here's a simple solution...don't shop at American chains. Put your collection aside for a second, grab some morals or ethics and take a stand against all of this American consumerism and predatory marketing. If more people took a stand against this stuff ands refused to give in to the easy, cheap way for the sake of making their lives easier, we wouldn't be losing our Canadian stores.
Sorry if that was harsh but i'm tired of listening to people whine about things but never having the balls to do anything about it lest it interfere with saving a few almighty dollars.
Post by: BHMike on July 21, 2004, 09:39:09 AM
Not that I don't agree with you Shane.... but :shock:
Mike
Post by: Chinooked Canuck on July 21, 2004, 10:06:41 AM
Quote from: ""Tattoo Shane""
F*** Wal-Mart and F*** Target.
American consumerism and predatory marketing. If more people took a stand against this stuff ands refused to give in to the easy, cheap way for the sake of making their lives easier, we wouldn't be losing our Canadian stores.
Sorry if that was harsh but i'm tired of listening to people whine about things but never having the balls to do anything about it lest it interfere with saving a few almighty dollars.
I thinks it's already a little too late for that..... :|
All we have to do is refuse to be sucked into a marketing campaign.
Post by: Redmao on July 21, 2004, 10:59:07 AM
Quote from: ""Tattoo Shane""
F*** Wal-Mart and F*** Target.
If you really don't like the Americanization of Canada then here's a simple solution...don't shop at American chains. Put your collection aside for a second, grab some morals or ethics and take a stand against all of this American consumerism and predatory marketing. If more people took a stand against this stuff ands refused to give in to the easy, cheap way for the sake of making their lives easier, we wouldn't be losing our Canadian stores.
Sorry if that was harsh but i'm tired of listening to people whine about things but never having the balls to do anything about it lest it interfere with saving a few almighty dollars.
Actually, I do make a stand. I never go to walmart. I buy my stuff at some little stores like legends for instance. Sure I might pay a few bucks more for the same toy but heck I'll stand by the little guy and not by the big company!!! I hate that big company that thinks that it owns the world.
Post by: Tattoo Shane on July 21, 2004, 11:38:19 AM
Quote from: ""BHT""
:shock:
Not that I don't agree with you Shane.... but :shock:
Mike
Heh heh....sorry, i've been told i have the subtlety of a sledgehammer sometimes and i guess the lack of sleep this week took it's toll this time around. Sorry to any who may have construed that as an attack on them as that was not the case....i just hate corporations a teensy bit. ;)
Post by: Techno Viper T-17 on July 24, 2004, 11:32:26 PM
I recently got a couple of Gundam figures at one that I had had my eye on since before Christmas! I don't think there has been a toy shipment to any of the three in my area in six months. Do you know how tired I get of looking at the exact same toys on every visit. I activily collect three things: Joes, Gundam, and Zoids. None of which are carried anymore.
Post by: Redmao on July 25, 2004, 08:15:26 AM
Post by: Chinooked Canuck on July 26, 2004, 12:32:28 PM
Quote from: "Techno Viper T-17"
Zellers never has cared about their toy department. quote]
I hear that, I work as a designer for a company that produces displays and fixtures for retail stores, we were bidding on a project for the Zellers, Toy department. it was really nice looking what we were going to do, really gives off that little kid feeling when you walk into the department, but Zellers being cheap as they are, we dident get the job, and since then I havent seen anything new for the toy department since then, and that was at least 1.5 years ago. I guess the program was canceled..... guess that just proves your point to a T.
there trying to compete with the big boys, but playing with little boy rules....... I can only imagine what there head office is like...... :?
Post by: Tattoo Shane on August 16, 2004, 12:45:34 PM
Again, it's just a rumour at this point but i wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if it happened...... :(
Post by: BHMike on August 16, 2004, 01:03:55 PM
Quote from: ""Tattoo Shane""
So, i've heard rumours to the effect that Target is looking to take over The Bay here in Canada which means for sure that two of our long standing Canadian chains will now be US owned and it's entirely possible that both could end up going the way of the dodo and all our Bays and Zellers' will be converted to Targets...(
I'd expect Zellers to become Target and the Bay to stay the Bay...... but that's just what I'd do.... if I could afford to buy out Zellers and the Bay that is.... and if I owned Target..... and was American..... you know?
Mike
Post by: Tattoo Shane on August 16, 2004, 02:47:09 PM
Post by: Pete The Greek on August 16, 2004, 05:03:50 PM
Post by: Chinooked Canuck on August 17, 2004, 02:43:35 PM
Post by: custo on August 18, 2004, 12:53:35 PM
Quote from: ""Chinooked Canuck""
Well all I can say considering what I have heard about ToyRUs store closings....we are in need of serious serious competition between walmarts.
That is sooooooooo true, not only taht but TRU honestly can't even compete will Walmart in the world of joes.
Post by: Spillspleen on August 19, 2004, 11:16:47 AM
As for Hudson Bay selling out Zellars...they would never...that would mean another competitor which would me doom for them...I would think keeping Zellars as a money looser and tax right off for the Bay would be good enough for them...better than selling out and then going out of business after a year.
also this is not the first time Target has made an offer for Zellars...this is the third...and they are all for real...but I do believe that they have to get government approval of the deal before going ahead with any purchase....anyone here of this?...I know when I worked for Woolco and they were in the process for selling out to Wal-Mart the longest ordeal for them was getting the deal worked out with the federal government!
Post by: Stealth Viper on August 19, 2004, 03:27:45 PM
http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Columnist ... 89860.html (http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Columnists/Calgary/Paul_Jackson/2004/08/19/589860.html)
Post by: Chinooked Canuck on August 23, 2004, 01:28:38 PM
Post by: Tattoo Shane on October 20, 2004, 10:52:50 AM
Post by: Chinooked Canuck on October 20, 2004, 11:21:02 AM
Who knows, only time will tell if Zellers goes by by and Target moves in for some fierce competition with wally mart. at least fierce in the begining.
Post by: morgardee on October 20, 2004, 01:44:19 PM
Post by: Jon S. on October 22, 2004, 12:29:22 AM
It's not like Toys "R" Us is a Canadian company anyways.
What really kills me is that nobody mentioned the Sears/Eaton's purchase. Eaton's has been around for like what, a century? As soon as that happened, I accepted the inevitable. I'm just thankful they didn't rename the Eaton Centre to the Sears Centre. A strange thing happened once Sears took over Eaton's, though... the quality of service went up significantly. If these "sacred" Canadian stores were any good, they'd still be around.
Boycott the Americans? And do what? Import the figures from other Americans? Get real.
I'm more concerned about Wal-Mart taking over the U.S than Canada. What happens down there will eventually happen up here. It's time to stop thinking in terms of "us" vs "them."
Post by: morgardee on October 22, 2004, 08:29:46 AM
Post by: Realboss on October 23, 2004, 08:55:28 PM
In the case of Zellers/Target: Target carries GIjoe and Joe exclusives, Zellers does not.
We can also thank our government for the lack of GIJoe variety due to their bilingual packaging policies that create higher production costs. Hence also the lack of mini comics in earlier waves. First run production always goes to the States. Larger market, more demand.
Post by: Pete The Greek on May 07, 2007, 11:42:36 PM
From my line of work, i hear things through the grapevine. Target and another American home building outfit (Lowe's I think) are undertaking due diligence work on properties in the Toronto area. It's just a matter of time before these pop up and further adding to the list of butt ugly big box stores.
And Samco is looking for another warehouse.
Post by: Raptor on May 08, 2007, 10:43:33 AM
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Post by: Pete The Greek on May 08, 2007, 02:28:50 PM
Post by: Raptor on May 08, 2007, 03:02:14 PM
Downtown is a cast iron bitch to find and has no parking. On the plus side it made it so that fewer people went there to raid the joes.
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Post by: Pete The Greek on May 08, 2007, 03:20:30 PM