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Title: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: Stealth Viper on December 16, 2010, 06:51:18 PM
In the brochure:

http://www.gijoecon.com/fl2011/ (http://www.gijoecon.com/fl2011/)

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Mission Brazil II Set
The 1980s brought us many captivating missions and outstanding
special operations teams. This year we are proud to bring you a
reimagined version of one of the most memorable vintage sets,
G.I. Joe Special Mission: Brazil.
This updated fan favorite set includes 15 figures in the 25A body
style including unique Brazilian characters and Python Patrol
troop builders. Every collector will want these 25A style action
figures from this set!
The G.I. Joe figures include Captain Claymore, Leatherneck, Wet-
Suit, Mainframe, Dial-Tone and features the female secret agent,
Sparta!
The Cobra figures include two Python Tele-Vipers, six Python
Troopers and features the elusive Steel Cobra (Cobra de Aço)!
Each of these great teams comes
with their classic weapons and
accessories in this exciting 2011
fifteen figure boxed set. Mission
Brazil II will be a great addition to
your collection!
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: 5h4rK on December 16, 2010, 07:20:06 PM
OMG.. so cool!
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: bandonov on December 16, 2010, 07:53:12 PM
Sweet, I can order the set without going...
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: Realboss on December 16, 2010, 08:52:21 PM
Quote from: "bandonov"
Sweet, I can order the set without going...

Yes, with a little extra shipping and duty.  They will send it right to your home!
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: Sundance on December 17, 2010, 02:34:40 AM
well, thank Thor they're not arsing around with cryptic crossword clues this year.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: turner on December 17, 2010, 12:40:13 PM
I am so excited about this set, but if they don't do them accurately to their 80's special mission and pp counterparts I will be sorely disappointed.  I was in the middle of doing my own special missions set.  Got Mainframe pretty much done, and done some work on wetsuit.  Got claymore together just not painted.  I had already done de aco.  But I would really like this set if done accurately.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: morgardee on December 17, 2010, 01:30:13 PM
I think they need to get a little more creative instead of taking the safe road. Look at the CJC stuff. Aside from Backstop every character is new and so far I haven't heard anyone complain about them.

Rehashing Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol is the easy way out. Mind you, I bet we get some killer vehicles out of it.

The should build up on "The Plague" idea from Joe Vs Cobra or even some of their own stuff.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: Pete The Greek on December 17, 2010, 02:56:40 PM
Quote from: "Sundance"
well, thank Thor they're not arsing around with cryptic crossword clues this year.

Agreed.

My first reaction to the set was yawn.  I already have these guys in 3 3/4 form.  Hence, I rather have new characters.  But I am interested in seeing how Sparta will be constructed.  The head sculpt from the comic is the only version that looks good.   

And I have read some where that the price of this years set has gone up?  Really?  I can buy into the argument that classic 3 3/4 figures would cost more as you need to hunt down the molds, create new ones as the originals are worn out etc.  But these are the new style figures.  Besides that some new heads and accessories need to be done, what other reason is there to increase the price of the set?  Oh, I bet the reason will be Disney but I am not fully buying that. 
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: turner on December 17, 2010, 03:44:13 PM
I don't mind brand new characters that fit into the mythos (like Canada Joe Con), but I want the characters from back in the day given the 25th treatment, I would especially like this brazil set not to be too far off.  I did really like (prefer actually) the python patrol copperhead we got before even though it wasn't that accurate.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: Sundance on December 17, 2010, 04:06:05 PM
be interesting to see what they do for the attendee exclusives, given 2009's included the SAF Hawk and Blades, the Commando Heroicos helo, and the CH characters and the 2010s were Dolphin, Jammer and Gaucho from AF...
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: Realboss on December 17, 2010, 05:37:21 PM
$305 US for repaints of 25th molds I may have to pass.  We already got Brazil Leatherneck and Python Cobra troopers in the original 25th run.  The only figures I'd consider are the new additions to the set.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: turner on December 17, 2010, 06:22:07 PM
Quote from: "Realboss"
$305 US for repaints of 25th molds I may have to pass.  We already got Brazil Leatherneck and Python Cobra troopers in the original 25th run.  The only figures I'd consider are the new additions to the set.


Nah, man, the single carded ones we got are the "officers" the troopers in the set will use the regular officer mold.  They were reversed in the Python Patrol sub team.  So of all the original python patrol members, the televiper and the trooper are the only two we haven't gotten yet.

http://www.yojoe.com/action/89/pythontrooper.shtml (http://www.yojoe.com/action/89/pythontrooper.shtml)
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: bandonov on December 17, 2010, 10:49:17 PM
$305 is alot of money to seak by the wife  :shifty: 
But here is the bonus if you get the set early, plus you can get a baggie version of the set for $185 extra...

• The first 100 American Hero’s or Homefront Hero’s registrations
received by January 14, 2011 will receive a special Mission
Brazil II cloisonné lapel pin.
• 325 American Heroes or Homefront Heroes (provided that you
are an Officer level member of the Club) have the opportunity
to purchase a second set of 3 3/4” Mission Brazil II figures (no
box, certificate, etc) for $185. This is limited to one extra
set per American Hero’s or Homefront Hero’s package purchased.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: turner on December 18, 2010, 12:03:58 PM
Plus you get a free exclusive item.  In 2009 I think it was the commandos heroicos helicopter (fang).  And at the con they will have for sale some other exclusives like a 2 pack, 3 pack, and some vehicles.  Hadn't decided if I should go yet, even though I could drive there.  And I'm not sure what the deal is with the "parachute drop," one comment was that they hand those out to everyone now.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: Realboss on December 18, 2010, 01:53:46 PM
Quote from: "turner"
Plus you get a free exclusive item.  In 2009 I think it was the commandos heroicos helicopter (fang).  And at the con they will have for sale some other exclusives like a 2 pack, 3 pack, and some vehicles.  Hadn't decided if I should go yet, even though I could drive there.  And I'm not sure what the deal is with the "parachute drop," one comment was that they hand those out to everyone now.

The deal with the parachute drop figure changes from year to year.  I've been to Cons. where they handed them out to attendies and I've been where they make you buy them.  This year remains to be seen.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: turner on December 18, 2010, 08:07:58 PM
Either way, there is no actual drop?
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: Goldbug on December 18, 2010, 09:38:25 PM
Quote from: "turner"
Either way, there is no actual drop?
Nope no drop.

I'm not going but I would like this set anyway.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: turner on December 18, 2010, 10:29:32 PM
That's weird, I guess they used to actually drop them from some high point right?
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: Realboss on December 19, 2010, 01:23:50 AM
Quote from: "turner"
That's weird, I guess they used to actually drop them from some high point right?


Yes, they have dropped figures in the past (seen it a couple times)but in recent years they have had issues with zoning laws and other conflicts.  I also don't think Disney has ever allowed it on their property to begin with. 
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: turner on December 27, 2010, 04:34:36 PM
Check it out, the club has revealed the first two exclusives:  Leatherneck and Python Trooper!

http://www.gijoecon.com/fl2011/RAH11set-preview.cfm (http://www.gijoecon.com/fl2011/RAH11set-preview.cfm)
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: turner on December 27, 2010, 06:19:28 PM
How about this comparison?  The cancelled ROC Leatherneck, the original 86 version, and the con exclusive.

(http://http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad103/yojoeturner/collage.jpg)
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: 5h4rK on December 27, 2010, 07:05:19 PM
Snow Job legs, again.. eh boy!
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: canprime on December 27, 2010, 08:35:34 PM
All of a sudden that Leatherneck with the AWE looks like a needed figure to properly finish this set.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: turner on December 27, 2010, 08:50:35 PM
Absolutely.  That is, if the rest are in brazil colors.  Here's hoping.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: 5h4rK on December 28, 2010, 08:15:22 AM
Wow, I'm more interested in the 12in set this year..no joke! It looks amazing!
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: B on December 28, 2010, 02:55:05 PM
I really really like that Leatherneck.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: turner on December 28, 2010, 04:58:46 PM
Now they've posted the Mainframe and the Python Patrol Televiper.  Televiper doesn't have the better legs that were on the unproduced version, has the regular viper legs like the 25th televiper.  And the Mainframe means those of us hoping for accurate representations will be disappointed.  He's green instead of red.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: canprime on December 28, 2010, 07:52:33 PM
Quote from: "turner"
Now they've posted the Mainframe and the Python Patrol Televiper.  Televiper doesn't have the better legs that were on the unproduced version, has the regular viper legs like the 25th televiper.  And the Mainframe means those of us hoping for accurate representations will be disappointed.  He's green instead of red.

I guess they are going to use the "Mission Brazil II" as some sort of second mission/sequel.  That will probably explain the alternate colours for the Joes. 
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: turner on December 28, 2010, 09:03:48 PM
That makes sense, and disappoints me less.  Still disappointed though.  But I guess at least my customs aren't useless now.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: canprime on December 28, 2010, 10:23:27 PM
Quote from: "turner"
That makes sense, and disappoints me less.  Still disappointed though.  But I guess at least my customs aren't useless now.

Yeah I know what you mean.  I want the club to supplement the 25th line with stuff we won't get from Hasbro, like the 2009 international figs from the con.  It's nice to get more PP figs, but I feel the Joes so far are a miss.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: turner on December 28, 2010, 11:10:50 PM
My sentiments exactly.  The 2009 blades and the argentina guys gave me reason to think we might get an accurate update. 

Quote from: "canprime"
Quote from: "turner"
That makes sense, and disappoints me less.  Still disappointed though.  But I guess at least my customs aren't useless now.

Yeah I know what you mean.  I want the club to supplement the 25th line with stuff we won't get from Hasbro, like the 2009 international figs from the con.  It's nice to get more PP figs, but I feel the Joes so far are a miss.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: Pete The Greek on December 29, 2010, 12:17:12 AM
That looks like a straight-up re-paint of the Mainframe/Dataframe figure released in 2008.  I was hoping the for a better head and hands.

The Tele-Viper is what it is.  At least the Python Patrol 25th style will be complete.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: turner on December 29, 2010, 03:15:39 PM
They just revealed dialtone and wetsuit.  Disappointed, but oh well.  
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: bandonov on December 29, 2010, 04:11:15 PM
With Dial-Tone, not sure which one is better the free one or the Con set version? 
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: morgardee on December 29, 2010, 06:26:15 PM
Quote from: "turner"
They just revealed dialtone and wetsuit.  Once again, looks like you guys will have a better con set than the one down here. 

That's just it, isn't it. They have access to all the molds and they sky could be the limit. Instead of bringing some characters they keep going back to old sub teams. They should at least throw in one or two new guys. A new Python Patrol army builder in stead of 6 officers would have helped. How about Python Patrol Alley Viper? Or use the head from the Jungle Sniper Viper dude and make a P.P Night Ops guy. Heck, P.P. Hiss driver. This stuff is easy to think up. They need to get creative a bit.

The Joes could use a whole new character in the M.B. 2 set as well. They have the molds, just make a new head and kit bash something.

Now I want a P.P. Alley Viper.  :(
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: martin-montreal on December 29, 2010, 07:32:23 PM
Last year they had an Adventure Team set in 3 3/4 scale. I don't see that this year...

They have to do something to go with their submarine: http://www.gijoeclub.com/AT11sea.cfm (http://http://www.gijoeclub.com/AT11sea.cfm)

Martin
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: Scramble on December 29, 2010, 07:37:08 PM
I appreciate a dry land Wet-Suit, but what is that Dial-Tone supposed to be?
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: turner on December 29, 2010, 07:41:58 PM
The troop builder is actually new, the single card was the officer and the con set has the trooper.  Weird how they flipped the molds for that in the 80's, someone said it was a mistake.  I try to reconcile it with the notion of added confusion for the enemy since they are supposed to be a stealth team.

I was just disappointed that the set isn't trying to be 80's accurate.  There seems to be two camps of fans, one wants accurate translations into the 25th style and others want completely new stuff (I've been following the discussion on these on 4 different sites).  
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: canprime on December 29, 2010, 07:51:30 PM
As I said before, the PP figs are fine.  However when I see these Joe versions all I keep hearing in my head is Bob Uecker from "Major League" and him calling the wild pitch as "just a bit outside."

That's what this set is for me.  Not a wild pitch, but definitely misses the plate.  I get what they are going for with Mission Brazil 2, but it comes off as unnecessary when the fandom generally wants more unproduced ARAH figs in the 25th style and not interpretations.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: darth cujo on December 29, 2010, 09:31:35 PM
I've never bought any of these exclusives because they're always way over priced. So part of me likes to see stuff I have no interest in. Then I'm not missing out. The other part thinks it's cool to see some nice figures. I have a problem with the whole semi official-ness of their releases as well. They use hasbro molds, but they're not mass produced. But they fit right in with the "official" line, so generally it's frustrating because they are so limited and therefore expensive. I have not really been tempted by club figures in the past, since they haven't really fit my scope. But there are some that do, so it is annoying. I just wish they would make these available in numbers and at a cost that was reasonable.

That wetsuit is a pretty nice figure. Especially since it looks inspired by his appearance in yearbook #4. That is very cool! And I'm a sucker for figures in green camo and boonie hats. :) I likely wont get him since he will not likely be available at a reasonable price.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: canprime on December 29, 2010, 09:58:15 PM
Quote from: "darth cujo"
I've never bought any of these exclusives because they're always way over priced. So part of me likes to see stuff I have no interest in. Then I'm not missing out. The other part thinks it's cool to see some nice figures. I have a problem with the whole semi official-ness of their releases as well. They use hasbro molds, but they're not mass produced. But they fit right in with the "official" line, so generally it's frustrating because they are so limited and therefore expensive. I have not really been tempted by club figures in the past, since they haven't really fit my scope. But there are some that do, so it is annoying. I just wish they would make these available in numbers and at a cost that was reasonable.

That wetsuit is a pretty nice figure. Especially since it looks inspired by his appearance in yearbook #4. That is very cool! And I'm a sucker for figures in green camo and boonie hats. :) I likely wont get him since he will not likely be available at a reasonable price.

Never say never.  The Crimson Vipers and others from the 2009 set were going only for about $12-15 individually which is only just above regular retail in Canada.  So you may find that these figs won't be too expensive, especially 6 months after the con.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: darth cujo on December 30, 2010, 01:03:31 AM
Quote from: "canprime"
Quote from: "darth cujo"
I've never bought any of these exclusives because they're always way over priced. So part of me likes to see stuff I have no interest in. Then I'm not missing out. The other part thinks it's cool to see some nice figures. I have a problem with the whole semi official-ness of their releases as well. They use hasbro molds, but they're not mass produced. But they fit right in with the "official" line, so generally it's frustrating because they are so limited and therefore expensive. I have not really been tempted by club figures in the past, since they haven't really fit my scope. But there are some that do, so it is annoying. I just wish they would make these available in numbers and at a cost that was reasonable.

That wetsuit is a pretty nice figure. Especially since it looks inspired by his appearance in yearbook #4. That is very cool! And I'm a sucker for figures in green camo and boonie hats. :) I likely wont get him since he will not likely be available at a reasonable price.

Never say never.  The Crimson Vipers and others from the 2009 set were going only for about $12-15 individually which is only just above regular retail in Canada.  So you may find that these figs won't be too expensive, especially 6 months after the con.

That's good to hear. I know patience has paid off on many occasions for me in collecting. Especially in recent years with the mass of product out there combined with most collectors' short attention spans. Most stuff I've gotten the past few years has been for retail or less, even when factoring in shipping etc.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: B on December 30, 2010, 09:15:33 AM
I like the exclusives but I'm a local joe shopper so I rarely go out of my city for my stuff. Having said that I'm glad I'm not a completist.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: bandonov on December 30, 2010, 09:17:10 AM
I'm going to wait to see all the figures before I decide to buy this set....
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: morgardee on December 30, 2010, 10:45:40 AM
Quote from: "bandonov"
I'm going to wait to see all the figures before I decide to buy this set....

Agree, and I'm suppose to be going this year to the con.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: turner on December 30, 2010, 12:02:55 PM
I would have liked the set much better if it had not been billed as the special mission brazil theme.  That led to my hope that they were doing them accurately.  As just a new imaginitive set, it's not bad.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: NeoDragonKnight on December 30, 2010, 12:16:15 PM
hmmm the previews have let me down a bit, not sure what I was expecting but I dont think Ill be getting the set.  All I want from the set would be the De Aco which Ill try and get seperately.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: canprime on December 30, 2010, 12:19:37 PM
Quote from: "morgardee"
Quote from: "bandonov"
I'm going to wait to see all the figures before I decide to buy this set....

Agree, and I'm suppose to be going this year to the con.

Same here.  I saw this set was Mission Brazil w/PP and I was already booking everything in my mind, but now I am waiting to see, and most likely won't go either way.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: turner on December 30, 2010, 07:22:53 PM
Well, Sparta and de Aco are posted now. 
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: bandonov on December 30, 2010, 07:32:14 PM
WOW, Cobra de Aco looks awesome.... He will be the most wanted for sure of the set!  Not sure what to say about Sparta... Is the orginal one on YoJoe.com to compare?
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: bandonov on December 30, 2010, 07:35:45 PM
Just saw the orginal on yojoe.com and why did they not give her a leather jacket?  But they gave one to Dial-Tone? 
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: turner on December 30, 2010, 08:07:41 PM
I just had the wrong idea about what they were doing.  I thought they were picking up where the 25th left off with that accurate PP Trooper and close-to-accurate Leatherneck.  But that's not their intentions at all.  They're just trying to do something different.  
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: morgardee on December 31, 2010, 09:10:16 AM
Figures look nice, but still not sure about wanting to spend $20.00 on a figure, even if there is only 650 figures ever made.

They really need to bring the cost back down to $250.00 for the box set. That's what it's worth to me, not $305.00.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: turner on December 31, 2010, 12:11:56 PM
As I understand it, the sets have been decreased from 650 to 500.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: bandonov on December 31, 2010, 08:47:03 PM
I beat Turner to the news, they just posted Claymore.  I think it is a good figure, the helmet is big but I think you have to see it to know if it is okay or riduclas...
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: Sureshot on December 31, 2010, 09:43:26 PM
Quote from: "bandonov"
I beat Turner to the news, they just posted Claymore.  I think it is a good figure, the helmet is big but I think you have to see it to know if it is okay or riduclas...
The helmet is OK, it's his clown pants that are the problem.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: turner on January 01, 2011, 12:07:35 AM
Well, it's the 25th Outback with a different head and the wrong weapon.  
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: Sundance on January 01, 2011, 02:26:14 AM
and that 'Uzi' is a fricking Ingrams MAC-10!
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: canprime on January 04, 2011, 09:18:19 PM
Well pics of the boxed and posed set are now online. 

Overall a nice set, and frankly they really only missed on 3 figures (Leatherneck, Wet Suit, Mainframe).  They were pretty darn close on Sparta and Claymore and sort of close on Dial-Tone.  The got Cobra De Aco and the PP figs pretty much dead on considering the parts they had to work with.

I also like the PP art on the box, but would have liked to have seen some "action" art with the characters.

I only wish they would show the other exclusives that are for sale at the show, since I am still on the fence and that means I probably won't spend the money to go to the show.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: bandonov on January 04, 2011, 09:34:08 PM
Not sure what to do now, I like most of the figures but not sure if I want to spend so much for the set... ???   If they did not have so many PP troop builders in the set.  6 is way too many, 2 or 3 would have been fine.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: silentdusty on January 05, 2011, 09:30:00 AM
Initially, I was pretty stoked about this set, but after looking at the figs a few times, there is really nothing there that would intice me to drop $300 on the set. Especially since I am not a huge fan of the Python Patrol.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: 5h4rK on January 05, 2011, 11:42:36 AM
It's an OK set but definitely a pass for me.. I was a big fan of the old vintage o-ring sets.. that's my problem in fact!
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: Scramble on January 05, 2011, 11:58:30 AM
It's discouraging that this is the first year the club reveals the whole set far in advance and it seems to have discouraged people more than anything. I'm not blaming the fans for that, it is a lackluster set made of fairly available parts, a mishmash of subteams done in two different ways, and expensive for tooling that is four years old tops. I just predict a return to the club's cloak and dagger routine next year.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: canprime on January 05, 2011, 12:46:52 PM
Quote from: "Scramble"
It's discouraging that this is the first year the club reveals the whole set far in advance and it seems to have discouraged people more than anything. I'm not blaming the fans for that, it is a lackluster set made of fairly available parts, a mishmash of subteams done in two different ways, and expensive for tooling that is four years old tops. I just predict a return to the club's cloak and dagger routine next year.

They always reveal the boxset figures in advance.  Not all at once, usually over the span of a few weeks.

I think it had more to do with the quick turn around from registration to show.  They apparently got a lot of complaints about opening up registration around Christmas and this was their way of giving the fans something to see over the season while pushing back registration.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: latinjoe22 on January 05, 2011, 01:07:57 PM
This set would've been great if the Club had taken the opportunity to add new ranks to Python Patrol or simply offering whatever wasn't offered in the 25th line.

Their reimaginings of the Brazil mission lack the impacting colour scheme that their ARAH counterpart characters had. I'm also wondering why they had to retake the same characters when there are so many characters out there that could've been excellent Brazil mission candidates. Sparta, is a good choice (it's an Argentinian gi joe character If I remember correctly). The only character I have no problems with is Claymore, because I think he looks like a great Protagonist next to Cobra de Aço.

Cobra de Aço is, how should I say, a very simple but very cool figure, and there's more beautiful nothing like another shiny chromed helmet character. He is from the Brazilian Commandos Em Açao line which works well with the idea, but it's the Python Patrol team that he's leading (or not) that I have problems with. Their logo is all over the box, which I like, but It built great expectations on my side for an interesting Python subset.

Only two different Python Army builders? A third could've saved this set, then again maybe not.
I have difficulty accepting why there are so many Python troopers in this set. A few updated laser Vipers would've been the best support IMO for Cobra de Aço or even some Saw Vipers... New concepts would've been welcome too, but I don't see anything fresh in this set.

My mainstream is obviously ARAH (o-ring figures) as many of you already know but when I see something that I personnally like in the 25th style, I'm always opened to the idea of having it in my collection. This set does not meet my personal standards for a great set. I'm not even interested to know if there's a cool story behind these, as the set lacks the initial aesthetics that would Wow me in the first place.

Definitive pass for me, and no regrets.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: 5h4rK on January 05, 2011, 02:06:11 PM
Quote from: "latinjoe22"
A few updated laser Vipers would've been the best support IMO for Cobra de Aço

Wow, best idea I've seen on the boards so far.. +1 for ya!
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: akpayne on January 05, 2011, 02:30:12 PM
I have to agree - I like the Joe Figures, but the Cobra figs are a let down - especially when you consider the price per figure. I already own 4 Python Trooper and TeleVipers - and I didn't pay more than $4 each.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: Sundance on January 05, 2011, 04:37:19 PM
as far as i'm concerned, there's only 2 good things in the set: Sparta with a new headsculpt and a non-frogman Wet Suit.

not that i'm bothered any how, cuz i despise the new look figures' articulation and i wouldn't pay HALF of what they ask for the sets at the cons.

i *might* get the comic. there's bound to be someone at BFTB going who will then do bulk purchasing for the UK fans.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: Realboss on January 05, 2011, 06:32:03 PM
I just got this email from the Club regarding registration, they actually have the nerve to charge people a fee for registering this year.


The convention registration is now live online.  

 

You can use the link at GIJoeCon.com.  

 
Please read the brochure and FAQs before you register to avoid any mis-steps.  

 
Any cancellations or corrections may incur a fee.  Please click carefully.  

 
There is a $6 registration fee for use of the online system that will be charged at the end. This covers the expense of using the online system.

 
You can also download the registration forms and fax those in as well, but please note that there is a $25 administration handling fee if we do the registration for you.  

There is no registering by phone and if you mail in your form they will get to it when they can (when admin isn't busy)
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: bandonov on January 05, 2011, 07:39:49 PM
I know, what gives.... $6 to register online and $25 to register by fax? 
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: roger dodger on January 06, 2011, 08:30:22 AM
Shhhh! Don't give The Mike any ideas. LOL
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: turner on January 06, 2011, 03:03:16 PM
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Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: turner on January 06, 2011, 03:04:47 PM
I'm trying to figure out how you got PP Troopers and Televipers for 4 bucks each.

Quote from: "akpayne"
I have to agree - I like the Joe Figures, but the Cobra figs are a let down - especially when you consider the price per figure. I already own 4 Python Trooper and TeleVipers - and I didn't pay more than $4 each.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: 5h4rK on January 06, 2011, 05:09:46 PM
Quote from: "turner"
I'm trying to figure out how you got PP Troopers and Televipers for 4 bucks each.

Quote from: "akpayne"
I have to agree - I like the Joe Figures, but the Cobra figs are a let down - especially when you consider the price per figure. I already own 4 Python Trooper and TeleVipers - and I didn't pay more than $4 each.

Yep, me too!  ???
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: akpayne on January 06, 2011, 05:19:45 PM
I found them at (I think it was) Winners many months ago.
I also found Mutt, FireFly, V1 Flint, V1 and V2 Storm Shadow, Snow Serpents, V2 of Torch and V2 of Ripper, PP Crimson Guard, Eels.
V1 Stalker.  Now that I think about it, most of the 25th anniversary figures that I had a hard time finding at regular retail all turned up at my two closest Winners.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: akpayne on January 06, 2011, 05:20:38 PM
Sorry and to correct - now that I have looked the price tag on them says $4.99.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: Scramble on January 06, 2011, 05:23:22 PM
Quote from: "turner"
I'm trying to figure out how you got PP Troopers and Televipers for 4 bucks each.

I think he either meant PP Officers and non PP Televipers or ARAH PP Troopers and Televipers.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: canprime on January 06, 2011, 06:10:28 PM
Quote from: "akpayne"
Sorry and to correct - now that I have looked the price tag on them says $4.99.

Not sure what you mean, but 25th style PP Troopers and PP Televipers have never been made by Hasbro.  The club is the only place to offer them.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: 5h4rK on January 06, 2011, 06:20:47 PM
There was an unproduced PP Tele-Viper made a couple of months ago.. maybe it was available through some chinese eBay sellers??
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: bandonov on January 06, 2011, 07:25:10 PM
I think he was talking this one from the 25th line as I saw them too at Winners!

Python Patrol Officer
http://www.toywiz.com/gijoe8cobraof2.html (http://http://www.toywiz.com/gijoe8cobraof2.html)
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: akpayne on January 06, 2011, 08:34:02 PM
Bingo that is the one, and yes non PP televipers - sorry for the large amounts of confusion.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: Goldbug on January 06, 2011, 10:59:39 PM
Quote from: "bandonov"
I think he was talking this one from the 25th line as I saw them too at Winners!

Python Patrol Officer
http://www.toywiz.com/gijoe8cobraof2.html (http://http://www.toywiz.com/gijoe8cobraof2.html)


Winners is Canada's TJ Maxx or Marshalls.
http://www.tjx.com/ (http://www.tjx.com/)
They had lots of 25th figures. They should also have some Hall of Heroes ones too.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: 5h4rK on January 07, 2011, 10:25:32 PM
Quote from: "Goldbug"
Winners is Canada's TJ Maxx or Marshalls.
http://www.tjx.com/ (http://www.tjx.com/)
They had lots of 25th figures. They should also have some Hall of Heroes ones too.

Serious? I don't have any of the HoH figures so it could be nice for me to find them at a good price..
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: bandonov on January 07, 2011, 11:25:57 PM
I have not found any at Winners so far... :'( 
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: Pete The Greek on January 07, 2011, 11:44:02 PM
Winners and Marshalls are pretty much the same type of store.

Marshalls is coming to Canada in the spring.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: canprime on January 08, 2011, 11:32:00 AM
Quote from: "Pete The Greek"
Winners and Marshalls are pretty much the same type of store.

Marshalls is coming to Canada in the spring.

There is actually a Marshalls now at Eglinton and Warden.  It is where the Winners used to be until it moved across the street to a new building.  Havne't been in yet to see what's what.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: Goldbug on January 10, 2011, 05:44:52 AM
Quote from: "Pete The Greek"
Winners and Marshalls are pretty much the same type of store.

Marshalls is coming to Canada in the spring.
Same type & same company. http://www.tjx.com (http://http://www.tjx.com)   :wink:
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: nighthawk on January 12, 2011, 12:24:28 PM
Hey,
is there anyone here getting a second set for the army builders and doesn't need the individual characters and can spare 1 of each Python figure?

I mainly want the TeleViper and Python Trooper just to finish my Python patrol set, if anyone is willing to part with one of each.  The other individual characters, I would like to get, but my priority is one of each of the Python figures. 

If anyone can help, please shoot me a pm.

Thanks!
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: bandonov on January 26, 2011, 03:46:04 PM
Hey, the set is now avaialble on BBTS.com!  I just got the email from them, here is the link:

Box set
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS19829&mode=retail (http://http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS19829&mode=retail)

Loose set
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS19830&mode=retail (http://http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS19830&mode=retail)

12" set
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS19831&mode=retail (http://http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS19831&mode=retail)
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: morgardee on January 26, 2011, 03:54:16 PM
That's a bit expensive. Why wouldn't people just join up with a friend who already has a membership? Makes no sense to me.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: Sureshot on January 26, 2011, 10:45:25 PM
Yeah, that averages to $26.33 per figure. Makes what I paid for the canceled Target Deluxes look like a bargain. And you would really have to like Python Patrol to invest. Really like Python Patrol. Really. Really. Like. Python Patrol. I do not.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: bandonov on January 27, 2011, 08:02:59 AM
Shipping charges from BBTS is WAY BETTER then from the Collector's Club!  BBTS does not charge you extra to use bubble wrap to secure your products!
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: Pete The Greek on February 01, 2011, 10:23:40 AM
Quote from: "canprime"
Quote from: "Pete The Greek"
Winners and Marshalls are pretty much the same type of store.

Marshalls is coming to Canada in the spring.

There is actually a Marshalls now at Eglinton and Warden.  It is where the Winners used to be until it moved across the street to a new building.  Havne't been in yet to see what's what.

This store is currently under renovation, with nothing in it.  
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: canprime on February 01, 2011, 08:09:02 PM
Quote from: "Pete The Greek"
Quote from: "canprime"
Quote from: "Pete The Greek"
Winners and Marshalls are pretty much the same type of store.

Marshalls is coming to Canada in the spring.

There is actually a Marshalls now at Eglinton and Warden.  It is where the Winners used to be until it moved across the street to a new building.  Havne't been in yet to see what's what.


Yeah I saw that last week.  Oh well, it's wait and see.
This store is currently under renovation, with nothing in it.  
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: Realboss on March 11, 2011, 10:05:31 PM
I just got an email from MC that the 3 3/4 Con sets sold out completely.  First time ever.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: bandonov on March 11, 2011, 10:22:10 PM
They only have the "Baggie" version available for sale.  They did not say how many were left of those. 
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: NeoDragonKnight on March 11, 2011, 11:05:54 PM
did any of you guys order the box set or baggie?
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: morgardee on March 11, 2011, 11:17:02 PM
ARAH sold out yet a couple hundred 12 inch sets left. Soooo, which scale is keeping the name G.I.Joe alive?

Keep in mind I do buy 12 inch figures from time to time as well.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: NeoDragonKnight on March 11, 2011, 11:27:52 PM
Quote from: "bandonov"
They only have the "Baggie" version available for sale.  They did not say how many were left of those.  

Where do you sign up for the baggie?

edit: nm you were talking about bbts, found it :)  Dang its expensive...Does anyone want to split a loose set?  The only figures I want are De Aco, Sparta and Captain Claymore
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: Sundance on March 12, 2011, 02:25:11 AM
i would LOVE one of this year's 12in sets. the MB/PP one, not so much.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: morgardee on March 12, 2011, 08:15:51 AM
Scalpers are going to have a field day with this years set and the funny part is the army builders wont be the hot item.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: canprime on March 12, 2011, 04:21:32 PM
Quote from: "morgardee"
Scalpers are going to have a field day with this years set and the funny part is the army builders wont be the hot item.

Yeah early on they will make a killing, but like all Joe convention stuff, this time next year very little will be moving for anything more than con price +10%, except for the carded Dial-Tone since that will be very exclusive (relatively speaking) and highly sought after, ala Rowdy Roddy Piper.

The vehicles though have a history of not moving for much more than cost a year or more out.  The vehicle choice and paint scheme may help, but history would say otherwise.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: 5h4rK on March 12, 2011, 06:28:17 PM
Quote from: "canprime"
Yeah early on they will make a killing, but like all Joe convention stuff, this time next year very little will be moving for anything more than con price +10%, 

^^^^This! thank you..
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: bandonov on March 12, 2011, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: "5h4rK"
Quote from: "canprime"
Yeah early on they will make a killing, but like all Joe convention stuff, this time next year very little will be moving for anything more than con price +10%, 
^^^^This! thank you..

5h4rK will be selling all 10 sets that he bought at 400% above cost!  You are the Man! (hehehehe)
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: latinjoe22 on March 12, 2011, 07:42:27 PM
Quote from: "bandonov"
You are the Man! (hehehehe)

No, he's a Carcharodon Carcharias (ragged-toothed one)
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: NeoDragonKnight on March 12, 2011, 07:50:24 PM
I caved and got a loose set from bbts :(
Ill prob sell the ones I dont want.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: latinjoe22 on March 12, 2011, 07:54:56 PM
Quote from: "NeoDragonKnight"
I caved and got a loose set from bbts :(
Ill prob sell the ones I dont want.

How much did a loose set cost you Neo?
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: NeoDragonKnight on March 12, 2011, 08:09:22 PM
too much...
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS19830&mode=retail)
but I figure I can make most of it back after reselling singles
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: bandonov on March 12, 2011, 08:57:21 PM
Quote from: "NeoDragonKnight"
too much...
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS19830&mode=retail)
but I figure I can make most of it back after reselling singles

Hey Neo... check this thread out... someone is looking for some of those figs...

http://www.joecanuck.com/joe/board/index.php?topic=5170.0 (http://http://www.joecanuck.com/joe/board/index.php?topic=5170.0)
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: morgardee on March 12, 2011, 10:12:56 PM
Ouch! $334 for a bagged set?

You know the MC club has a "homefront hero" set, right? Basically costs the same as the attending set AND you can buy the bagged set for a cheaper rate, right?

I always get both, add the cost together and divide by two. Work outs to $255 and $235 depending (box set costs $20.00 more)
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: bandonov on March 12, 2011, 10:17:04 PM
Quote from: "morgardee"
Ouch! $334 for a bagged set?
You know the MC club has a "homefront hero" set, right? Basically costs the same as the attending set AND you can buy the bagged set for a cheaper rate, right?
I always get both, add the cost together and divide by two. Work outs to $255 and $235 depending (box set costs $20.00 more)

The problem they are sold out for the Non-Attending.  They have 50 sets at the CON for people that did not register and 50 boxed and 50 bagged (So I read somewhere) went to BBTS.COM.

His best chance is BBTS as Ebay will be higher!
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: NeoDragonKnight on March 12, 2011, 10:18:29 PM
yup, was sold out when I tried :(  I procrastinated too much.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: bandonov on March 12, 2011, 10:21:49 PM
+1 for Procrastinating or should that be -1?

I waited too... I was hoping for a sale at the Club within the years end.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: NeoDragonKnight on March 12, 2011, 10:28:37 PM
Quote from: "bandonov"
+1 for Procrastinating or should that be -1?

I waited too... I was hoping for a sale at the Club within the years end.

Ya, I seriously didnt think it would sell out like this (first time ever?).  Didnt know people liked Python Patrol this much.  I actually liked the Crimson Set more, and that is still available at the store, though highly priced as well.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: NeoDragonKnight on March 12, 2011, 10:33:34 PM
also, its a preorder, so I still have time to flake lol.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: bandonov on March 12, 2011, 10:59:11 PM
Quote from: "NeoDragonKnight"
Quote from: "bandonov"
+1 for Procrastinating or should that be -1?
I waited too... I was hoping for a sale at the Club within the years end.
Ya, I seriously didnt think it would sell out like this (first time ever?).  Didnt know people liked Python Patrol this much.  I actually liked the Crimson Set more, and that is still available at the store, though highly priced as well.

HaHaHa!  I'm waiting for that sale too! I really want that Dr. Venom set to go on sale more! 
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: martin-montreal on March 13, 2011, 07:49:36 AM
I think a lot of people bought the set to resell part of it if not all of it. Watch eBay and you will get a lot of discount. Problem with eBay is people boosting shipping fees to cover eBay fees, extra time, etc.

The best thing I saw is people sharing order on forums. I saw some posts on JoeCustoms, Yojoe, etc. So one is buying a set and dispatching it between board members.
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: morgardee on March 13, 2011, 09:14:26 AM
I use to buy extra con sets and split them but after last year I said I would never take point on that again. I still have 4 extra figures from the Red Shadow set, sitting around in baggies. Basically cost me around $72.00 in unmovable product (2 Red Shadows and 2 Red Shadow flame thrower dudes).
Title: Re: GIJCC Convention Set Revealed - Mission Brazil vs Python Patrol
Post by: Sundance on March 13, 2011, 12:45:06 PM
offer them up on BFTB, you may get takers there.