Post by: Storm.Shadow on December 02, 2008, 01:25:20 PM
Quote from: "BBTS"
Hi - Hasbro has just informed us that this item has been cancelled, and as a result they will not be able to fill our orders. We apologize for the inconvenience. We have cancelled all preorders and removed the item from our site.
This was the case with:
Arctic HISS w/ Arctic Driver
Claw Glider w/ Stratoviper & Flak Cannon w/ Outback
Stinger Jeep w/ Stinger Commander
I wish we could have asked about this in the Q&A. I wonder what's happening. Hopefully they're just reworking the assortment or something like that.
Post by: morgardee on December 02, 2008, 01:42:10 PM
Post by: viper2008 on December 02, 2008, 01:51:13 PM
Post by: freakx2001 on December 02, 2008, 01:51:23 PM
Post by: Lt Storm on December 02, 2008, 01:58:14 PM
Quote from: "Storm.Shadow"
I wish we could have asked about this in the Q&A. I wonder what's happening. Hopefully they're just reworking the assortment or something like that.
Funny how this was timed eh, after all the questions were to be submitted.
Oh, anyway I visited a few other sites and they are either pulled from the sites or listed as "notify me when available" but have an available date of 1/20/2009
Post by: Stealth Viper on December 02, 2008, 01:59:34 PM
Post by: Wild Weasel on December 02, 2008, 02:16:39 PM
Post by: Redmao on December 02, 2008, 02:23:23 PM
Post by: Storm.Shadow on December 02, 2008, 02:41:26 PM
Post by: Lt Storm on December 02, 2008, 03:22:36 PM
Post by: Storm.Shadow on December 02, 2008, 03:30:50 PM
Quote from: "Lt Storm"
Walmart in Chatham had a huge stock of them at first I couldn't believe how many they had, never thought they'd get rid of them all. Sold through them in 2 weeks, restocked again and sold them out, haven't restocked since. I guess it varies from area to area.
They sold really well at first, but by the time they came out with the Bi-lingual packaging a few months ago it seems the market here in KW had been satisfied. They hardly move at all now and they just keep piling up with more of the same two sets. That's great if they are still selling well in other areas but around here I'd have to buy up 500$ worth of shelf warmers to get anything new in.
Hopefully things really pick up with Christmas right around the corner. Hey my local TRU is finally down to their last few Paratrooper Dukes (it only took two years!) so anything is possible :)
Post by: morgardee on December 02, 2008, 03:47:53 PM
Post by: Lt Storm on December 03, 2008, 10:57:02 AM
Quote from: "morgardee"
Well hopefully there will be a major price cut to blow these out. When I can buy another hiss tank for $9.99 then I'll buy more. ;D
QFT
Post by: Pete The Greek on December 03, 2008, 01:33:42 PM
As for a 9.99 Hiss tank; that sounds more reasonable than the current prices in the shelves.
Post by: Raptor on December 03, 2008, 01:48:08 PM
Maybe I'll even trade for a vintage one. With the glut of HISSs coming out in the last 7 years the value of the classic might have bottomed out.
- R
Post by: B on December 07, 2008, 03:22:52 PM
Post by: Gerjurdking on December 08, 2008, 02:40:14 PM
Post by: viper2008 on December 10, 2008, 05:55:18 PM
Quote from: "viper2008"
Interesting, I noticed that this pre-order was taken off one of the Sponsor's Sites. Now I know why. :'(
Golden Age Toys has added this pre-order to the web site again. ???
Post by: Storm.Shadow on February 24, 2009, 12:40:08 PM
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Hasbro has just announced that wave 5 is alive! This series was canceled in 2008 and we have just received confirmation that it is now going to be released in 2009. This line is only available to retailers who purchase in large quantities from Asia, we have guaranteed stock on order with Hasbro so get your preorders in now.
Post by: Canuklehead on February 24, 2009, 03:26:24 PM
Post by: morgardee on February 24, 2009, 03:48:17 PM
Post by: Stealth Viper on February 24, 2009, 04:04:25 PM
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Safety Warning: This Product is for Adult Collectors. It may contain sharp points, small parts that are choking hazards, and other elements that are not suitable for children under 16 years of age.
Maybe these didn't pass safety tests and that's why they were canned?
Post by: darth cujo on February 24, 2009, 11:19:40 PM
Quote from: "Stealth Viper"
Curious, this isQuoteSafety Warning: This Product is for Adult Collectors. It may contain sharp points, small parts that are choking hazards, and other elements that are not suitable for children under 16 years of age.
Maybe these didn't pass safety tests and that's why they were canned?
BBTS has been putting this on a lot of their toys lately. Maybe in answer to some new law or something in the US. Either way, it's just a protect your butt thing for them to not get sued for some reason.
Anyone know if these will hit canadian online retailers?
Post by: silentdusty on February 25, 2009, 06:44:49 AM
Post by: Stealth Viper on February 25, 2009, 08:47:35 AM
Quote from: "darth cujo"
Anyone know if these will hit canadian online retailers?
Don't count on it. I don't know of any Canadian e-tailer that would order in the quantity required.
Post by: canprime on February 25, 2009, 08:48:12 AM
It's like BBTS is trying to get you to by with a "LIMITED TIME ONLY!!!" quip.
The reality is that only large orders ever get processed. Small etailers tend to get their supply through middle men like Entertainment Earth. Large companies (TRU, Walmart) go through Hasbro. BBTS is probably one of the only, if not only, etailer that orders in large quantities to justify shipping to them directly.
It seems to me like it is a bit disingenuous to put that kind of thing in to scare up some extra orders, when they likely have no more knowledge about who is going to order these than anyone else. Unless they have contacts in TRU, Target, etc.
Also, if they do end up as "online only" exclusives then I imagine they will be pretty readily available.
Post by: Stealth Viper on February 25, 2009, 09:08:04 AM
Quote from: "canprime"
The whole "only large orders from Asia" thing seems a little shady to me.
It's like BBTS is trying to get you to by with a "LIMITED TIME ONLY!!!" quip.
The reality is that only large orders ever get processed. Small etailers tend to get their supply through middle men like Entertainment Earth. Large companies (TRU, Walmart) go through Hasbro. BBTS is probably one of the only, if not only, etailer that orders in large quantities to justify shipping to them directly.
It seems to me like it is a bit disingenuous to put that kind of thing in to scare up some extra orders, when they likely have no more knowledge about who is going to order these than anyone else. Unless they have contacts in TRU, Target, etc.
Also, if they do end up as "online only" exclusives then I imagine they will be pretty readily available.
It's very legit.
Hasbro has done this before. What it means is they are washing their hands of it, to a degree. They product is produced (it has been since before it was canceled last time) and sitting in China. Rather than taking that huge loss, Hasbro is basically saying "it's
over there - if you want it, go get it"
Therefore, in order to get it to North American shores at a reasonable cost, you're going to have to order a significant amount so the shipping price can get spread across more units.
Hasbro isn't importing it, isn't distributing it, isn't touching it. It will NOT show up at Walmart, TRU or Target, as the work through Hasbro distribution. Hasbro Canada didn't even know about it until I talked to them yesterday.
Post by: Kronz on February 25, 2009, 10:23:49 AM
Post by: B on February 26, 2009, 05:12:21 PM
Quote from: "Stealth Viper"
Quote from: "canprime"The whole "only large orders from Asia" thing seems a little shady to me.
It's like BBTS is trying to get you to by with a "LIMITED TIME ONLY!!!" quip.
The reality is that only large orders ever get processed. Small etailers tend to get their supply through middle men like Entertainment Earth. Large companies (TRU, Walmart) go through Hasbro. BBTS is probably one of the only, if not only, etailer that orders in large quantities to justify shipping to them directly.
It seems to me like it is a bit disingenuous to put that kind of thing in to scare up some extra orders, when they likely have no more knowledge about who is going to order these than anyone else. Unless they have contacts in TRU, Target, etc.
Also, if they do end up as "online only" exclusives then I imagine they will be pretty readily available.
It's very legit.
Hasbro has done this before. What it means is they are washing their hands of it, to a degree. They product is produced (it has been since before it was canceled last time) and sitting in China. Rather than taking that huge loss, Hasbro is basically saying "it's
over there - if you want it, go get it"
Therefore, in order to get it to North American shores at a reasonable cost, you're going to have to order a significant amount so the shipping price can get spread across more units.
Hasbro isn't importing it, isn't distributing it, isn't touching it. It will NOT show up at Walmart, TRU or Target, as the work through Hasbro distribution. Hasbro Canada didn't even know about it until I talked to them yesterday.
How can Hasbro Canada not know about this? Is there no communication between the US and Canadian buisnesses about the same products? Hasbro Canada should go and order a whole bunch to be released here. Then at least we'd have a few more vehicles to choose from.
Post by: BHMike on February 26, 2009, 06:04:35 PM
Quote from: "B"
How can Hasbro Canada not know about this? Is there no communication between the US and Canadian buisnesses about the same products? Hasbro Canada should go and order a whole bunch to be released here. Then at least we'd have a few more vehicles to choose from.
Because for starters, Hasbro USA makes all final decisions on product. Thus, since Hasbro USA isn't bringing it, and are (as Stealth said) washing their hands of it, there's no need to tell Hasbro Canada about it.
Just like an exclusive I wanted to do for the CanJoeCon. That one item fell through, therefore I had no reason to mention it to anyone else involved with the CanJoeCon.
No one wants to get a memo saying "Oh, this toy, that we were gonna bring out, we still are - but we're not handling it - so you can't have any, thought you'd like to know what you can't get - not that it was ever available to you anyway".
Post by: Realboss on February 26, 2009, 06:53:20 PM
Post by: Stealth Viper on February 27, 2009, 09:07:40 AM
Quote from: "B"
How can Hasbro Canada not know about this? Is there no communication between the US and Canadian businesses about the same products? Hasbro Canada should go and order a whole bunch to be released here. Then at least we'd have a few more vehicles to choose from.
Hasbro Canada is to Hasbro USA like Walmart or Toys R Us is.
Hasbro USA produces a product, and Walmart/TRU/Hasbro Canada have the opportunity to put an order in to get said product.
Back when this wave was first canceled, it was because Walmart/TRU/Target etc were not interested. Hasbro Canada had a chance at that point to order, but didn't - because Zellers/Walmart/TRU here are still sitting on wave 1 vehicles.
So the wave was canceled.
Now, to recoup costs, Hasbro USA is offering it to etailers, providing etailers import it themselves. As Hasbro USA is not distributing it, it is not even offered to Walmart/TRU/Target/Hasbro Canada.
That's just how it works.
Post by: B on February 27, 2009, 09:39:20 PM